Marc Rutzen

That's how much we need to achieve profitability.

I mean, we don't need a huge team, right?

So we're not like a company that needs a call center.

We don't need to keep ramping up salespeople.

The sales happen through the site themselves.

We need maybe a few more salespeople, a little bit more development capacity, but not a ton right now.

And our main objective first is to achieve profitability.

I'd say the Challenger sale is my recent favorite, but the Lean Startup is my all-time favorite.

Right now...

Shoot, there's a lot.

Not in particular.

I've been reading a lot of business books lately, so I haven't been following anyone in particular.

I guess Travis Kalanick is kind of interesting right now because the whole thing he's doing with Cloud Kitchens, that startup that's investing in stagnant retail space.

I'd say Slack is incredible, and HubSpot is more incredible, though.

I try for six.

What do you get, though?

I have a daughter at home, so I probably get five to six.

Okay, five.

Married.

And she's turning two soon.