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Marco Arment

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
6218 total appearances

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Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

In all fairness, I would say like based on the virtualized size of them, the wide and ultra wide, I think basically have to be curved, especially the ultra wide. The it takes up like I mean, I'm just estimating here, maybe like 90 degrees of your field of view.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

In all fairness, I would say like based on the virtualized size of them, the wide and ultra wide, I think basically have to be curved, especially the ultra wide. The it takes up like I mean, I'm just estimating here, maybe like 90 degrees of your field of view.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

So if that was just a big flat pane window in the in the view, the left and right edges would be substantially further away from your eyes than the center would be. It would be a little weird.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

So if that was just a big flat pane window in the in the view, the left and right edges would be substantially further away from your eyes than the center would be. It would be a little weird.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

Honestly, if you try it and you like it. More power to you. Where I am with the Vision Pro is I have my feelings about it. I can tell you how well it works for me. But a lot of other people, it works better for them. And so if it works better for you, who cares if it doesn't work very well for me? That's my loss and your gain. So anyway, so I did try this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

Honestly, if you try it and you like it. More power to you. Where I am with the Vision Pro is I have my feelings about it. I can tell you how well it works for me. But a lot of other people, it works better for them. And so if it works better for you, who cares if it doesn't work very well for me? That's my loss and your gain. So anyway, so I did try this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

It is substantially better than the original version. in terms of screen space and therefore the usability of that screen space. I found the ultra-wide, the biggest setting, to actually be way too much space. I had to do so much head turning. I'm like, this is ridiculous. So I actually stuck with the middle setting, the wide.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

It is substantially better than the original version. in terms of screen space and therefore the usability of that screen space. I found the ultra-wide, the biggest setting, to actually be way too much space. I had to do so much head turning. I'm like, this is ridiculous. So I actually stuck with the middle setting, the wide.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

It was a lot of screen space, plenty of screen space on the middle setting for me without too much head turning. So that part was fine. The scale, the ability to use the space, that was all very good. The main problems I had with the original version were, number one, I could notice the foveated rendering, which is bad.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

It was a lot of screen space, plenty of screen space on the middle setting for me without too much head turning. So that part was fine. The scale, the ability to use the space, that was all very good. The main problems I had with the original version were, number one, I could notice the foveated rendering, which is bad.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

Because you see kind of out of the corner of your eyes which parts of the screen are blurry that you're not quite looking at. And maybe it was a little slow to update when you would move your eye to it. That, I did not notice that this time. So I don't know if they've actually improved that or if I've stopped noticing. I think they might have actually improved it.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

Because you see kind of out of the corner of your eyes which parts of the screen are blurry that you're not quite looking at. And maybe it was a little slow to update when you would move your eye to it. That, I did not notice that this time. So I don't know if they've actually improved that or if I've stopped noticing. I think they might have actually improved it.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

So you don't notice the foveated rendering blurriness on the stuff you're not looking at anymore. At least I didn't. I did still notice the two other major problems I had with it the first time, which are a lack of sharpness and latency. One of the first things I tried when I first got Division Pro, I tried editing a podcast in it with Logic.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

So you don't notice the foveated rendering blurriness on the stuff you're not looking at anymore. At least I didn't. I did still notice the two other major problems I had with it the first time, which are a lack of sharpness and latency. One of the first things I tried when I first got Division Pro, I tried editing a podcast in it with Logic.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

The screen space was delightful, but the problem was there's a little bit of latency. And when you're like, if you're just typing in a document, you won't see it. But when you start moving stuff around, you do see it. You do feel that latency and it feels really bad and really wrong. And it makes certain types of work very difficult to do in that environment without like driving yourself nuts.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

The screen space was delightful, but the problem was there's a little bit of latency. And when you're like, if you're just typing in a document, you won't see it. But when you start moving stuff around, you do see it. You do feel that latency and it feels really bad and really wrong. And it makes certain types of work very difficult to do in that environment without like driving yourself nuts.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

So latency is still there. I still notice it. And that alone would be enough for me to not really want to use this very often, if ever.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

So latency is still there. I still notice it. And that alone would be enough for me to not really want to use this very often, if ever.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

The laptop it was connected to was connected to Ethernet. But the Vision Pro was on Wi-Fi. Gotcha.

Accidental Tech Podcast
617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

The laptop it was connected to was connected to Ethernet. But the Vision Pro was on Wi-Fi. Gotcha.