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Then's the break. I guess if you don't like it, you can get one of, you know, USB audio connection and use one of the back USB ports. So you have options, but it's difficult to choose where to put the ports. And I just think it was interesting for Apple for so long, really not pretty against ports on the front of their computers.

Then's the break. I guess if you don't like it, you can get one of, you know, USB audio connection and use one of the back USB ports. So you have options, but it's difficult to choose where to put the ports. And I just think it was interesting for Apple for so long, really not pretty against ports on the front of their computers.

Now, even the tiny Mac mini has not just the headphone port, but other ports in the front of it as well. The Mac studio has an SD card slot in the front of it, plus ports. It's a brave new world.

Now, even the tiny Mac mini has not just the headphone port, but other ports in the front of it as well. The Mac studio has an SD card slot in the front of it, plus ports. It's a brave new world.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, that's the Apple TV problem, and I bet it's true of the Mac Mini, too. If you connect cables to all the things in the back, power, a bunch of USB, Ethernet, those cables, the force on those cables, the stiffness of those cables, already may be, like, tilting your entire Mac Mini, like, on an angle off of the surface. Yeah. Or, like, pulling it to the side.

Well, that's the Apple TV problem, and I bet it's true of the Mac Mini, too. If you connect cables to all the things in the back, power, a bunch of USB, Ethernet, those cables, the force on those cables, the stiffness of those cables, already may be, like, tilting your entire Mac Mini, like, on an angle off of the surface. Yeah. Or, like, pulling it to the side.

You try to align it so it's, like, parallel to the side of your desk, and you let go, and it just slides another two degrees because the cables are too stiff. Yeah.

You try to align it so it's, like, parallel to the side of your desk, and you let go, and it just slides another two degrees because the cables are too stiff. Yeah.

cable like it's so small compared to the strength i have the same problem with apple tv pucks like sometimes you can find a place in your entertainment center where it sits just fine but sometimes it just wants to move because i mean hdmi if you have hdmi and you've got really thick hdmi cable uh it's a problem uh i don't know maybe you can just everyone every uh mac mini should come with like a custom made exactly the same uh proportions as the top of the case like tungsten slab that you can just put on top probably not good for cooling though no

cable like it's so small compared to the strength i have the same problem with apple tv pucks like sometimes you can find a place in your entertainment center where it sits just fine but sometimes it just wants to move because i mean hdmi if you have hdmi and you've got really thick hdmi cable uh it's a problem uh i don't know maybe you can just everyone every uh mac mini should come with like a custom made exactly the same uh proportions as the top of the case like tungsten slab that you can just put on top probably not good for cooling though no

yeah if you well it's one dollar less yeah if you double the ram and storage it is double the price of the base model mac mini that's amazing and i wanted to break down we talked about this before and we didn't say they don't want to go into numbers but here let's go into numbers how does this work out so the base model is 599 okay that's 16 gigs of ram 256 ssd when you do the ram upgrade to 32 that is plus 400 dollars

yeah if you well it's one dollar less yeah if you double the ram and storage it is double the price of the base model mac mini that's amazing and i wanted to break down we talked about this before and we didn't say they don't want to go into numbers but here let's go into numbers how does this work out so the base model is 599 okay that's 16 gigs of ram 256 ssd when you do the ram upgrade to 32 that is plus 400 dollars

that's adding 16 gigabytes to the base 16 at $25 per gigabyte. And you may be wondering, how much does that cost for real? Not an Apple Fantasyland. I tried to find something comparable, same speed RAM to the best of my knowledge. And I was super fair with this because I'm comparing it in this case to Crucial, which is a name brand, 32 gig LPDDR5X 7500 memory, right? But this Crucial thing,

that's adding 16 gigabytes to the base 16 at $25 per gigabyte. And you may be wondering, how much does that cost for real? Not an Apple Fantasyland. I tried to find something comparable, same speed RAM to the best of my knowledge. And I was super fair with this because I'm comparing it in this case to Crucial, which is a name brand, 32 gig LPDDR5X 7500 memory, right? But this Crucial thing,

It's an entire printed circuit board with associated capacitors and resistors and multiple chips and, oh yeah, also the two NAND chips. When you upgrade the RAM on the Mac Mini, it's just two different RAM chips that are soldered into the package that the SoC is on. It's not a whole other circuit board with its own associated circuitry coming with it.

It's an entire printed circuit board with associated capacitors and resistors and multiple chips and, oh yeah, also the two NAND chips. When you upgrade the RAM on the Mac Mini, it's just two different RAM chips that are soldered into the package that the SoC is on. It's not a whole other circuit board with its own associated circuitry coming with it.

It's not a separately packaged retail product. All right. So anyway, this crucial 32 gig thing is a retail product. And it costs $174.99 on the crucial.com website, which I'm sure is not the cheapest place you can get it. Doing the math on that, Apple's RAM upgrades are 6.5 times more expensive than buying a separate retail packaged printed circuit board complete memory module.

It's not a separately packaged retail product. All right. So anyway, this crucial 32 gig thing is a retail product. And it costs $174.99 on the crucial.com website, which I'm sure is not the cheapest place you can get it. Doing the math on that, Apple's RAM upgrades are 6.5 times more expensive than buying a separate retail packaged printed circuit board complete memory module.