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And they all pointed back to the Hunter book.

So that's why I say, do with it what you will.

Decide on your own whether this changes your opinion of Yubikudi or not, but the story is out there and you can read it and it's from this particular source.

I mean, it's nice that we just recorded an episode before this came out where I basically said, I can't believe they haven't killed yet.

What are they waiting for?

Well, they were just waiting for us to drop the episode, apparently.

I mean, a lot of people will write again.

When people write in and say, you know, I wonder what John thinks of this.

I do wonder if they're like, you know, only a sporadic listener of ATP because, God, we've talked about this topic so much.

And if you had listened to every episode and had not tuned out like Casey every time I mentioned the Mac Pro, I feel like you wouldn't...

i feel like you would know how i feel about this and how i feel about it is what i said on the last episode like the machine has been effectively dead for a long time like especially with the you know the past few milestones that happened when it was like we were waiting for you know news and rumors or whatever and i think it was an episode a while back where i was like notice how there's no rumors at all about anything having to do with the mac pro and sure enough whenever the events came along there was in fact nothing to do with

the mac pro and it's like well that's it it's over like they upgraded the studio to the m3 ultra which itself was weird did they upgrade the mac pro to it no they did not well maybe they'll do it the next event no they didn't and it's like well that's it it's dead it's done like this is not what you do to a machine that's a going concern and then it became ridiculously embarrassing i made the snarky toot about uh the the neo being faster in single core than the mac pro because it's just so old and expensive and of course the price has never changed and

You know, it just needed to be put out of its misery.

Apple, you know, Apple is clearly no longer making this product, and I would much rather see it put out of its misery and discontinued immediately rather than waiting for the Mac Studio to replace it and saying this new M5 Ultra Mac Studio replaces the Mac Pro.

They're not even waiting until then.

Why wait?

There's no point.

So it's gone and buried.

If you want to hear me talk about the Mac Pro itself,

in the more positive sense, not the M2 Ultra one, because it's hard to say anything positive about that one.