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How about the ethics department?

Yeah, I think, I mean, look, first of all, like, yeah, this, you know, Apple is not doing a great job hiding the idea that John Ternus is seemingly most likely the next CEO candidate.

But I think this is great.

The reality is that I think Apple's design leadership under Tim Cook has been just kind of weak overall because, as discussed a million times, Tim Cook seems to equate all design ideas

together um and so he's like oh johnny ive you are designer you are good designer uh here software design this it's all the same and then he put jeff williams in charge who is not a good designer right and and all the reports we've heard so far about jeff williams's term uh you know kind of serving that role um basically make it seem like he was pretty hands off but you know he was there like he was at the meetings but like sounds like he was pretty hands off um and nobody seemed to really have any problem with him

Yeah.

But so there's a couple of things about that that I think are promising.

First, just in general, I think reinforcing the idea that John Ternus is the is the most likely CEO successor and that that process is starting that I think overall is very promising for Apple's future.

Again, even though we don't know what kind of CEO Ternus would be, he seemed to do an extremely good job at his current role as being hardware chief.

And he seems very well-liked, and he seems like he has pretty good personality traits as far as we know.

We don't know that much about him, but what we do know, it seems like he'd be a pretty good person for this role.

And it seems like he is a little bit more product-focused than Cook.

Um, who see him, you know, cook is much more kind of high level operations focused.

Cook doesn't really have a good product sense at all.

And he's shown that many times over the years.

Um, so he kind of outsources that to people below him, but he's not very good at choosing those people sometimes.

So I think Turner's will be better at a lot of those things.

Um, so that overall, that's a promising part of this, but also I think this is not unrelated to Alan Dye's departure.

I suspect this has kind of been in progress for a while.