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Marco Arment

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Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

Users can authenticate with Passkeys and other devices by scanning a QR code with their phone, which is Apple's current janky method of like, what if I can't use my phone to authenticate because I'm trying to do it on some other system? You can... make it bring up a QR code and scan it with your phone and it will do some magic, right?

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

Users can authenticate with Passkeys and other devices by scanning a QR code with their phone, which is Apple's current janky method of like, what if I can't use my phone to authenticate because I'm trying to do it on some other system? You can... make it bring up a QR code and scan it with your phone and it will do some magic, right?

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

But yeah, there's import export format against and draft format. People are commenting on it. But once this becomes available, it will essentially make your collection of pass keys and other stuff portable so that if you ever decide I don't want to be in the Apple ecosystem anymore, you can securely transfer your pass keys from one

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

But yeah, there's import export format against and draft format. People are commenting on it. But once this becomes available, it will essentially make your collection of pass keys and other stuff portable so that if you ever decide I don't want to be in the Apple ecosystem anymore, you can securely transfer your pass keys from one

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

system to another people still complaining about this because they're like i just want it to be exported into a file that i can deal with but this is sort of like you need like two things involved here icloud keychain and something else that understands this and so you're never you're never just dumping a bunch of files dumping all this info to a file that you can just save and store away somewhere it's always like the receiving end has to initiate the thing and the sending end has to agree and there's a handshake and it securely transfers from one to the other there's no sort of middle way to do it and

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

system to another people still complaining about this because they're like i just want it to be exported into a file that i can deal with but this is sort of like you need like two things involved here icloud keychain and something else that understands this and so you're never you're never just dumping a bunch of files dumping all this info to a file that you can just save and store away somewhere it's always like the receiving end has to initiate the thing and the sending end has to agree and there's a handshake and it securely transfers from one to the other there's no sort of middle way to do it and

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

to the point where the people who are responsible for this spec are saying, if somebody makes a client that allows you to dump out the info and doesn't have it immediately imported into something, but allows it to just sort of sit in a file on disk, they may disallow that from being part of the system because they don't think that's something you should be allowed to do.

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

to the point where the people who are responsible for this spec are saying, if somebody makes a client that allows you to dump out the info and doesn't have it immediately imported into something, but allows it to just sort of sit in a file on disk, they may disallow that from being part of the system because they don't think that's something you should be allowed to do.

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

And this has people up in arms because they're like, I want a plain text file on my disk that no one controls that has my stuff in it. Or I want to be able to print something out on a piece of paper and put it in a safe. And if I can't do that, the standard sucks. Everyone has different requirements for this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

And this has people up in arms because they're like, I want a plain text file on my disk that no one controls that has my stuff in it. Or I want to be able to print something out on a piece of paper and put it in a safe. And if I can't do that, the standard sucks. Everyone has different requirements for this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

for what makes them feel comfortable about security uh but i think for most people who absolutely do not care about any of the things i just described uh passkeys will someday be a superior alternative to passwords we're just not quite there yet because they're still kind of fidgety and weird and every website does it a little bit differently but hopefully we'll get there someday

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

for what makes them feel comfortable about security uh but i think for most people who absolutely do not care about any of the things i just described uh passkeys will someday be a superior alternative to passwords we're just not quite there yet because they're still kind of fidgety and weird and every website does it a little bit differently but hopefully we'll get there someday

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

It's 01. I don't know. They make it lowercase to try to not confuse it with zero, but their naming is terrible. This was from an overtime on, I think, last episode. We were discussing if open AI has any kind of quote-unquote moat. Do they have any secret sauce that other people can't copy, or are LLMs a commodity, and 01 is their new model that...

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

It's 01. I don't know. They make it lowercase to try to not confuse it with zero, but their naming is terrible. This was from an overtime on, I think, last episode. We were discussing if open AI has any kind of quote-unquote moat. Do they have any secret sauce that other people can't copy, or are LLMs a commodity, and 01 is their new model that...

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

Supposedly does fancier reasoning to try to arrive at better answers, and it can partially explain its reasoning. In the overtime, we were discussing open AIs.

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

Supposedly does fancier reasoning to try to arrive at better answers, and it can partially explain its reasoning. In the overtime, we were discussing open AIs.

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

stern position on people trying to discover how o1 works by doing prompt injection and like you're not allowed to look inside the box it's our super trade secret if anyone else knew they'd be able to you know compete with us but we have the special sauce anyway um i'm sure completely coincidentally apple ai's researchers recently published a academic paper about uh things like uh open ai's o1 um

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

stern position on people trying to discover how o1 works by doing prompt injection and like you're not allowed to look inside the box it's our super trade secret if anyone else knew they'd be able to you know compete with us but we have the special sauce anyway um i'm sure completely coincidentally apple ai's researchers recently published a academic paper about uh things like uh open ai's o1 um

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

uh reading from the decoder uh which is not the decoder podcast of the verge is a different website the hyphen decoder.com a new study by apple researchers including renowned ai scientist sammy ben geo calls into question the logical capabilities of today's large language models even open ai's new reasoning model 01 i will put a link in the show notes to the paper uh there's a thread on x from one of the uh from the team leader of the people who wrote the paper

Accidental Tech Podcast
609: You’re the Oreo Cookie

uh reading from the decoder uh which is not the decoder podcast of the verge is a different website the hyphen decoder.com a new study by apple researchers including renowned ai scientist sammy ben geo calls into question the logical capabilities of today's large language models even open ai's new reasoning model 01 i will put a link in the show notes to the paper uh there's a thread on x from one of the uh from the team leader of the people who wrote the paper