Marco Arment

Let me tell you, they do not like that at all. No, because this is like a – what do you call it?

Let me tell you, they do not like that at all. No, because this is like a – what do you call it?

trust uh multiple times removed you have to trust the car and they have to trust you trusting the car and they don't know anything about the car and maybe they know anything about you if it's a stranger right so it's like can you imagine taking an uber and it's like a bmw and the person takes their hands off the wheel now you have to trust both this bmw and this uber driver you've never met in your life i mean you have to trust them anyway when they're driving but like

trust uh multiple times removed you have to trust the car and they have to trust you trusting the car and they don't know anything about the car and maybe they know anything about you if it's a stranger right so it's like can you imagine taking an uber and it's like a bmw and the person takes their hands off the wheel now you have to trust both this bmw and this uber driver you've never met in your life i mean you have to trust them anyway when they're driving but like

At least their hands are on the wheel and you hope that they will do something sensible to save their own life, whereas they're zoning out while they're quote-unquote driving you somewhere. It's like, maybe I should just take a Waymo.

At least their hands are on the wheel and you hope that they will do something sensible to save their own life, whereas they're zoning out while they're quote-unquote driving you somewhere. It's like, maybe I should just take a Waymo.

Although, actually, I don't know if we have a better time to bring this up, and I was thinking about this literally like half an hour ago, and so I'll just bring it up now. I am really, really enjoying, what is the official term for it? iPhone mirroring. I was going to say iPhone remote control, but iPhone mirroring.

Although, actually, I don't know if we have a better time to bring this up, and I was thinking about this literally like half an hour ago, and so I'll just bring it up now. I am really, really enjoying, what is the official term for it? iPhone mirroring. I was going to say iPhone remote control, but iPhone mirroring.

I used it all the time at first, I think in a small part because it was new and fun and fancy, but it is really convenient to be able to effectively, I don't think this is literal, but effectively VNC into your phone. and control it from your Mac. And it seems to do a pretty good job of mirroring the clipboard and stuff like that.

I used it all the time at first, I think in a small part because it was new and fun and fancy, but it is really convenient to be able to effectively, I don't think this is literal, but effectively VNC into your phone. and control it from your Mac. And it seems to do a pretty good job of mirroring the clipboard and stuff like that.

The one thing that drives me bananas about it is that all of the different gestures that I've trained for the iOS simulator are not the same. So as an example, to scroll in the iOS simulator, you have to click and drag, whereas in this, you scroll. And Command-Shift-H... in the iOS simulator is hit the home button.

The one thing that drives me bananas about it is that all of the different gestures that I've trained for the iOS simulator are not the same. So as an example, to scroll in the iOS simulator, you have to click and drag, whereas in this, you scroll. And Command-Shift-H... in the iOS simulator is hit the home button.

And in this it's command one of all things, which like fine, it's an easier gesture, but it is so wildly different than what we're used to. So as an iOS developer, it's kind of a pain in the butt, But in every other way, it is freaking great. And it'll even pull through audio, if I'm not mistaken. I've only done that like once or twice.

And in this it's command one of all things, which like fine, it's an easier gesture, but it is so wildly different than what we're used to. So as an iOS developer, it's kind of a pain in the butt, But in every other way, it is freaking great. And it'll even pull through audio, if I'm not mistaken. I've only done that like once or twice.

But I genuinely, I'm not just saying this because you're sitting right here, Marco. I genuinely think that the Overcast macOS app, as long as you're running on an Apple Silicon Mac, hi John, is actually pretty good. But if you don't fancy that, or for some reason you can't install it on like your work computer or whatever, but you can do the iPhone mirroring thing,

But I genuinely, I'm not just saying this because you're sitting right here, Marco. I genuinely think that the Overcast macOS app, as long as you're running on an Apple Silicon Mac, hi John, is actually pretty good. But if you don't fancy that, or for some reason you can't install it on like your work computer or whatever, but you can do the iPhone mirroring thing,

You can just pull the audio right through and use Overcast on your iPhone, even though it's sending the audio through your Mac. It is really well done, and I've been really impressed with it. And I don't think we had talked about it yet on the show.

You can just pull the audio right through and use Overcast on your iPhone, even though it's sending the audio through your Mac. It is really well done, and I've been really impressed with it. And I don't think we had talked about it yet on the show.

I'm actually a little bit surprised. I really honestly am.

I'm actually a little bit surprised. I really honestly am.