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But setting aside that,

When I look at past iOSes, I mentioned earlier, I think there was a really good era from the iOS 12 to 15-ish era where the design was in a really good place.

It was a very good evolution of what it was trying to be from iOS 7, but better and evolved and refined.

And, you know, I hope to get back to that in the next few years.

And I'm optimistic that I'm pretty sure I think Apple can do that realistically.

I don't know that they will, but they can.

And I hope they do.

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