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A little bit over 10.

I think my 2008 Mac Pro was used for a little bit over 10 years.

Something like that.

I don't think everything you said supports that.

The 2019 was the last good Mac Pro, clearly.

I know it was a shame that it got Apple siliconed, but like when it was released, there was no Apple silicon.

So we can only, you know, even though Apple knew that it was coming, whatever, at 2019 Mac Pro was released, it was an amazing Mac Pro.

Now, granted, the price was higher.

As you noted, it was not as economical as it was, but I think that's as the 2008 one.

But I think that's just a sign of the times and that Apple realized we have to move up market because that's where...

That's where the people who are going to be able to afford this computer that we want to make exist, and the other users are better served by our lower-end stuff.

At that point, you could do Final Cut on an Intel laptop still, even though it wasn't as good as it is an Apple Silicon.

So they went upmarket with it, which is fine.

You can go upmarket with a high-end computer.

But the 2019 Mac Pro is what they promised to that 2017 Mac Roundtable.

So we're going to make a modular Mac Pro that's our biggest, baddest computer.

How long will it be before...

Apple ever makes another computer with the capabilities of the 2019 Mac Pro, just in terms of RAM.

It could hold 1.5 terabytes of RAM.

Granted, it was slow RAM, not like today's super fast RAM, but it was 2019.