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Marco Arment

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Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

But that architecture of saying, we don't want to build...

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

We either don't want to or can't build a chip this big on a single die because we're at the reticle limit or whatever.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

So we're going to take two of these other things, to your point, two of these other chips that we already have to build for our laptops.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And we're not going to do a whole separate chip, but we're just going to take two of the laptop chips.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And we also designed it in a way for them to talk to each other with this, you know, fusion architecture where they stick to each other end to end.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

Just like our old shirt says with the two maxes flipped over and stuck together.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

That architecture does not scale well, but that's not Apple silicon.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

That's whatever it is, the silicon interposer fusion architecture thing.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

I think we're beyond that now, as evidenced by the chiplet architecture on the M5 Pro and M5 Max.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And so I'm not saying what Apple is going to do, but if they wanted to...

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

They could totally abandon the silicon interposer two maxes stuck together architecture and just build a big dedicated CPU on its own die with no GPUs and a big dedicated GPU on its own die with no CPUs and make them both at the radical limit and stick them on a chip.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And there's your M5 Ultra.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

I would love for them to do that.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

I don't think they're going to, but I would love for them to do that.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And that is still Apple Silicon.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

So there's nothing inherent in Apple Silicon that says you have to do that end-to-end thing.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And that is the linear scaling barrier.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

That is the thing that costs tons of money but doesn't give you the bang for your buck.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

And so I think the runway is clear for them to do something better, especially with like 2 nanometer or whatever they end up going to in like the M6 or M7.

Accidental Tech Podcast
685: The Ability to Be Hotter

I forget when that's going to happen.