Marco Arment

Here's our Ultra.

But that's not the promised land of this, you know, of performance.

And so I do hope, especially with the Mac Pro gone for good now...

that they have some better plans for the studio.

Cause I do, and I, you know, the silicon interposer thing with the two maxes end to end, that's also not particularly power efficient.

And there's a bunch of stuff we've talked about.

There's a bunch of stuff on those chips that is, you don't need twice as many of those, but you get them because it's two maxes, right?

It would be better if you could consolidate the parts that are in common and yada, yada.

So yeah,

That's what I'm hoping for, and I don't think it's a limitation on Apple Silicon.

It's just a limitation of the cost-saving approach they have been using for the Ultra since the M1 Ultra.

And I agree with you that the quad one that they abandoned, they abandoned it for a reason, not just for the hell of it.

They wanted to do it.

They tried to do it.

They had visions of, you know, putting it together, but like...

if the scaling on two of them was bad, the scaling and four would be even worse and the cost would be even higher.

And yes, it would have been faster than an ultra, but it wouldn't have been twice as fast as an ultra.

And so it's a point of diminishing returns.

So basically they couldn't, they couldn't pull it off.

They couldn't deliver what the 2019 Mac pro deliver, which is something that has a big multiple of the capability of its contemporary max.