Marco Rubio

It is because we understand that ultimately...

Our own fate will be intertwined with what happens with Europe.

We want Europe to survive.

We want Europe to prosper because we're interconnected in so many different ways and because our alliance is so critical.

But it has to be an alliance of allies that are capable and willing to fight for who they are and what's important.

Do you see a parallel?

Yeah, I would say two things.

The first, the mentions of the Cold War to remind people of everything we've achieved together in the past in times when there was doubt.

I mean, it's hard to imagine today, but there were those who believed in the 60s and 70s even that at a minimum we had reached a stalemate and worse, that perhaps Soviet expansion was inevitable and that we needed to come to accept it.

There were voices that actually argued this.

And so it's reminding people of what we've done together in the past, but it's also a reminder that at the end of that era...

When we won the Cold War, there was this euphoria that led us to make some terrible decisions that have now left us vulnerable.

It de-industrialized the West.

It left us increasingly dependent on others, including China, for our critical supplies.

And that needs to be reversed in order to safeguard us.

And so I do think—

Yes, it would be ideal to have a Western supply chain that is free from extortion from anyone.

Leave aside China, anybody else.

We should never have to—we should never be in a situation where our alliance and our respective countries are vulnerable to extortion or blackmail because someone controls 99 percent of something that's critical to national life.

So I think we do have a vested interest in that regard.