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Margaret Killjoy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Instead of class solidarity, you had national solidarity. What if you made all of the poor people suck up to the rich people and then defend the nation as a concept? the leftist trappings, and some of the leftist strategies, but with right-wing goals. Because at the time, right-wing was just like the status quo, right? If you defend like the monarchy or whatever, you're right-wing.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Instead of class solidarity, you had national solidarity. What if you made all of the poor people suck up to the rich people and then defend the nation as a concept? the leftist trappings, and some of the leftist strategies, but with right-wing goals. Because at the time, right-wing was just like the status quo, right? If you defend like the monarchy or whatever, you're right-wing.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

So there's nothing really revolutionary about it. But fascism was like, no, but we want the revolution and we want to like feel cool and edgy, but we also want to, we really like the taste of boots. And so we're going to become fascists and invent this new ideology. For a few years, a lot of politics in Italy was happening in the streets, fascists versus anti-fascists fighting it out.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

So there's nothing really revolutionary about it. But fascism was like, no, but we want the revolution and we want to like feel cool and edgy, but we also want to, we really like the taste of boots. And so we're going to become fascists and invent this new ideology. For a few years, a lot of politics in Italy was happening in the streets, fascists versus anti-fascists fighting it out.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

So there's nothing really revolutionary about it. But fascism was like, no, but we want the revolution and we want to like feel cool and edgy, but we also want to, we really like the taste of boots. And so we're going to become fascists and invent this new ideology. For a few years, a lot of politics in Italy was happening in the streets, fascists versus anti-fascists fighting it out.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

And for a good several years, Mussolini tried to make common cause with the anarchists specifically to join him against the socialists and the communists. After all, this is the period where the Bolsheviks in Russia were murdering anarchists en masse. And so some folks, there's a chance that Mussolini was even going to go anarchist during this time.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

And for a good several years, Mussolini tried to make common cause with the anarchists specifically to join him against the socialists and the communists. After all, this is the period where the Bolsheviks in Russia were murdering anarchists en masse. And so some folks, there's a chance that Mussolini was even going to go anarchist during this time.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

And for a good several years, Mussolini tried to make common cause with the anarchists specifically to join him against the socialists and the communists. After all, this is the period where the Bolsheviks in Russia were murdering anarchists en masse. And so some folks, there's a chance that Mussolini was even going to go anarchist during this time.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

I actually don't buy it, but I read one person making this argument. He actually risked alienating his base with how much he appreciated the anarchists. Interesting. Because his base was like, no, those are the people we just go fight in the streets. But Mussolini kind of admires their commitment, right? And the anarchists don't want him.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

I actually don't buy it, but I read one person making this argument. He actually risked alienating his base with how much he appreciated the anarchists. Interesting. Because his base was like, no, those are the people we just go fight in the streets. But Mussolini kind of admires their commitment, right? And the anarchists don't want him.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

I actually don't buy it, but I read one person making this argument. He actually risked alienating his base with how much he appreciated the anarchists. Interesting. Because his base was like, no, those are the people we just go fight in the streets. But Mussolini kind of admires their commitment, right? And the anarchists don't want him.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Mussolini said, quote, we are always ready to admire men who are willing to die for a faith they believe in selflessly. And this is him contrasting the anarchists to the cowardly socialists. The anarchists, in so many words, told him to eat shit and die. They refused his overtures again and again, and soon enough, they're going to try really, really hard to just outright kill this man.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Mussolini said, quote, we are always ready to admire men who are willing to die for a faith they believe in selflessly. And this is him contrasting the anarchists to the cowardly socialists. The anarchists, in so many words, told him to eat shit and die. They refused his overtures again and again, and soon enough, they're going to try really, really hard to just outright kill this man.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Mussolini said, quote, we are always ready to admire men who are willing to die for a faith they believe in selflessly. And this is him contrasting the anarchists to the cowardly socialists. The anarchists, in so many words, told him to eat shit and die. They refused his overtures again and again, and soon enough, they're going to try really, really hard to just outright kill this man.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

The most famous Italian anarchist, then and now, is this guy named Errico Malatesta. He's popped into a bunch of our stories on this show, like when comrades got him to Argentina by smuggling him in a crate of sewing machines. And then he helped the baker's union there become the most radical union in that country and the model that all the other unions rushed to follow.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

The most famous Italian anarchist, then and now, is this guy named Errico Malatesta. He's popped into a bunch of our stories on this show, like when comrades got him to Argentina by smuggling him in a crate of sewing machines. And then he helped the baker's union there become the most radical union in that country and the model that all the other unions rushed to follow.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

The most famous Italian anarchist, then and now, is this guy named Errico Malatesta. He's popped into a bunch of our stories on this show, like when comrades got him to Argentina by smuggling him in a crate of sewing machines. And then he helped the baker's union there become the most radical union in that country and the model that all the other unions rushed to follow.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

And how today in Argentina, there are still pastries named by the anarchist bakers, like little books and little bombs. I really like Malatesta. He's always in and out of jail. He's an older fellow now. I think he's in his 60s at this point that we're talking about. And while he's in prison in Italy, there's a huge campaign to free him.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

And how today in Argentina, there are still pastries named by the anarchist bakers, like little books and little bombs. I really like Malatesta. He's always in and out of jail. He's an older fellow now. I think he's in his 60s at this point that we're talking about. And while he's in prison in Italy, there's a huge campaign to free him.

Behind the Bastards
Behind the Bastards Presents: Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

And how today in Argentina, there are still pastries named by the anarchist bakers, like little books and little bombs. I really like Malatesta. He's always in and out of jail. He's an older fellow now. I think he's in his 60s at this point that we're talking about. And while he's in prison in Italy, there's a huge campaign to free him.