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Margo Gray

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Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

I want to pause here for a moment. Thorpe is acknowledging that in August 2011, long before the university publicly admitted to the paper class scheme and years before the investigations were concluded, he had a clear understanding of the scheme that had been taking place. He understood that the AFAM department was offering fake courses that never actually met and required no work.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

I want to pause here for a moment. Thorpe is acknowledging that in August 2011, long before the university publicly admitted to the paper class scheme and years before the investigations were concluded, he had a clear understanding of the scheme that had been taking place. He understood that the AFAM department was offering fake courses that never actually met and required no work.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

I want to pause here for a moment. Thorpe is acknowledging that in August 2011, long before the university publicly admitted to the paper class scheme and years before the investigations were concluded, he had a clear understanding of the scheme that had been taking place. He understood that the AFAM department was offering fake courses that never actually met and required no work.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

He understood that the primary purpose of the scheme was to keep athletes eligible, primarily basketball and football players, and he knew it had been going on for decades. Instead of coming clean about what he already knew, Thorpe chose to buy the university some time. He launched an internal investigation, a move he now describes as putting the problem on a credit card.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

He understood that the primary purpose of the scheme was to keep athletes eligible, primarily basketball and football players, and he knew it had been going on for decades. Instead of coming clean about what he already knew, Thorpe chose to buy the university some time. He launched an internal investigation, a move he now describes as putting the problem on a credit card.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

He understood that the primary purpose of the scheme was to keep athletes eligible, primarily basketball and football players, and he knew it had been going on for decades. Instead of coming clean about what he already knew, Thorpe chose to buy the university some time. He launched an internal investigation, a move he now describes as putting the problem on a credit card.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

I also think this first investigation was never going to be the final word because it only looked at the classes from 2007 to 2011. Why stop at 2007 when there were signs that the problem went back much further?

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

I also think this first investigation was never going to be the final word because it only looked at the classes from 2007 to 2011. Why stop at 2007 when there were signs that the problem went back much further?

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

I also think this first investigation was never going to be the final word because it only looked at the classes from 2007 to 2011. Why stop at 2007 when there were signs that the problem went back much further?

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

In other words, they only looked back as far as they had to. Dan Cain hadn't requested records from earlier decades, so they saw no reason to dig deeper. The problem with that strategy was that Dan Cain eventually figured out that the scandal went back much further. And his discovery unleashed another wave of bad headlines, tougher questions, and yet another investigation.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

In other words, they only looked back as far as they had to. Dan Cain hadn't requested records from earlier decades, so they saw no reason to dig deeper. The problem with that strategy was that Dan Cain eventually figured out that the scandal went back much further. And his discovery unleashed another wave of bad headlines, tougher questions, and yet another investigation.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

In other words, they only looked back as far as they had to. Dan Cain hadn't requested records from earlier decades, so they saw no reason to dig deeper. The problem with that strategy was that Dan Cain eventually figured out that the scandal went back much further. And his discovery unleashed another wave of bad headlines, tougher questions, and yet another investigation.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

This became a familiar pattern. Every time UNC tried to tell only part of the story or hide behind an investigation, the truth had a way of catching up with them and making things even worse. So sitting here today, if you could go back to that moment, what would you have done differently?

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

This became a familiar pattern. Every time UNC tried to tell only part of the story or hide behind an investigation, the truth had a way of catching up with them and making things even worse. So sitting here today, if you could go back to that moment, what would you have done differently?

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

This became a familiar pattern. Every time UNC tried to tell only part of the story or hide behind an investigation, the truth had a way of catching up with them and making things even worse. So sitting here today, if you could go back to that moment, what would you have done differently?

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

Breaking the news would not have been easy, particularly for Holden Thorpe, a lifelong Carolina fan who had not yet come to terms with the death of the Carolina Way himself.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

Breaking the news would not have been easy, particularly for Holden Thorpe, a lifelong Carolina fan who had not yet come to terms with the death of the Carolina Way himself.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

Breaking the news would not have been easy, particularly for Holden Thorpe, a lifelong Carolina fan who had not yet come to terms with the death of the Carolina Way himself.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

Instead, Thorpe spent the next year dodging questions from reporters and clinging desperately to the Carolina way. But even he knew he couldn't hold on forever. On September 17, 2012, Holdenthorpe announced he was resigning as chancellor of UNC. The final blow wasn't tied to athletics, but instead to a separate scandal, one involving university fundraisers using school funds for personal trips.

Campus Files
Carolina Way - Part 3 | Carolina's Favorite Son

Instead, Thorpe spent the next year dodging questions from reporters and clinging desperately to the Carolina way. But even he knew he couldn't hold on forever. On September 17, 2012, Holdenthorpe announced he was resigning as chancellor of UNC. The final blow wasn't tied to athletics, but instead to a separate scandal, one involving university fundraisers using school funds for personal trips.