Margo Gray

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Following Hartley's speech, the university's Board of Regents denied Chancellor Gow a raise for that year and audited all of his expenses from the previous three years. To appease his higher-ups, Chancellor Joe Gao ended up paying Nina Hartley's $5,000 speaking fee out of his own pocket. But that was far from the end of the story.

Following Hartley's speech, the university's Board of Regents denied Chancellor Gow a raise for that year and audited all of his expenses from the previous three years. To appease his higher-ups, Chancellor Joe Gao ended up paying Nina Hartley's $5,000 speaking fee out of his own pocket. But that was far from the end of the story.

Following Hartley's speech, the university's Board of Regents denied Chancellor Gow a raise for that year and audited all of his expenses from the previous three years. To appease his higher-ups, Chancellor Joe Gao ended up paying Nina Hartley's $5,000 speaking fee out of his own pocket. But that was far from the end of the story.

It turned out that Joe's connection to Nina was far more personal and shocking than anyone could have imagined. I'm Margo Gray. This week on Campus Files, UW-La Crosse faces a free speech controversy that goes from unusual to unbelievable. To understand the rest of the story, we first need to do a background dive into the man at the center of it, Joe Gao.

It turned out that Joe's connection to Nina was far more personal and shocking than anyone could have imagined. I'm Margo Gray. This week on Campus Files, UW-La Crosse faces a free speech controversy that goes from unusual to unbelievable. To understand the rest of the story, we first need to do a background dive into the man at the center of it, Joe Gao.

It turned out that Joe's connection to Nina was far more personal and shocking than anyone could have imagined. I'm Margo Gray. This week on Campus Files, UW-La Crosse faces a free speech controversy that goes from unusual to unbelievable. To understand the rest of the story, we first need to do a background dive into the man at the center of it, Joe Gao.

Before he was a headline-grabbing university official, Joe Gao was a student, and we found someone who knew Joe Gao in his earlier years. Would it be all right if we used your voice in the story?

Before he was a headline-grabbing university official, Joe Gao was a student, and we found someone who knew Joe Gao in his earlier years. Would it be all right if we used your voice in the story?

Before he was a headline-grabbing university official, Joe Gao was a student, and we found someone who knew Joe Gao in his earlier years. Would it be all right if we used your voice in the story?

This is Dr. Jerry Zoltan.

This is Dr. Jerry Zoltan.

This is Dr. Jerry Zoltan.

For over 40 years, Dr. Zoltan worked in Penn State's communications department, where he focused on the history of standup comedy and rock and roll. He met Joe back in the early 1980s.

For over 40 years, Dr. Zoltan worked in Penn State's communications department, where he focused on the history of standup comedy and rock and roll. He met Joe back in the early 1980s.

For over 40 years, Dr. Zoltan worked in Penn State's communications department, where he focused on the history of standup comedy and rock and roll. He met Joe back in the early 1980s.

What you're hearing right now is a disco remix of the Penn State fight song that Jerry released in the late 1970s.

What you're hearing right now is a disco remix of the Penn State fight song that Jerry released in the late 1970s.

What you're hearing right now is a disco remix of the Penn State fight song that Jerry released in the late 1970s.

Around the same time, Joe Gao was also trying to make it as a musician. He had a band called Johnny Deadline that he headlined as singer and guitarist.