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Maria Popova

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410 total appearances

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The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And a beautiful thing you do with that, by the way, that I've noticed is that you meet these other life forms on their own terms, honoring the terms of their actual existence, and then draw the metaphor.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Because something that I see happen a lot is people kind of hijacking the scientific reality just to make a human meaning out of it.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I mean, if I hear one more person using entanglement, I'm just gonna, you know, claw my amygdala out with a wooden spoon.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Yeah.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Unless you're actually explaining what entanglement means in quantum physics and then doing the thing.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

But you do this beautifully, this kind of honoring of the otherness of the other and then learning something from it that can be applied to your own lives.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Well, I mean, there's so much to say about this.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

First of all, it's a little bit like the why do you write about women in science?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I don't write about women.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

Love has always been love in all its many forms.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And partly I like writing about how people lived lives that were in the margins of their permission of their culture.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

is to really calibrate our complaints a little bit.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I mean, we are luxuriating in freedoms that these people never had.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And they are very beautiful, but they're also heartbreaking.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

I mean, Walt Whitman's entire life was like a struggle to just be himself.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And he wrote all that beautiful poetry out of that pain.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

It's not nothing to look back and say, even someone of extraordinary talent, accomplishment, genius...

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

couldn't be himself in the permissions of his culture.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And so he had to write these like coded poems.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Maria Popova on Turning Matter Into Meaning

And there's this one heartbreaking line that he puts in parenthesis in one of the poems.