Mariana van Zeller

That it's being sold in America?

Yeah, we went with the raid with the L.A.

Sheriff's Department where we saw a sort of a grocery store in the back that was selling these medications, mainly to underprivileged immigrant communities because they couldn't sell real stuff.

Not yet.

Not yet.

Not yet.

No.

That we know of.

Not yet that we know of.

But, again, at the end, we went and visited a spokesperson for a group called Pharma that is a lobby group that represents the pharmaceutical companies.

And she was very happy to talk about how counterfeit medications are very damaging for America, right?

And that's why I asked her, but why is it that 20 million Americans have to resort to a black market?

Because they can't afford their medications here.

Yeah.

And that whole conversation, as you know, is fascinating.

Yeah.

What did she say about that?

Well, she says that they need the money for innovation, R&D, right?

Research and development.

And that's how they can get new drugs that are important for Americans.