Mariana van Zeller

Yeah.

Which is a problem also now with the raids is that a lot of violence is happening.

You know, even if it's rapes or domestic abuse and people are just even if they're going through this, they're not going to call the police because they're afraid of being deported.

It's difficult not to get cynical.

Right.

And I actually it's to me, it's always heartbreaking when you hear people saying that they don't vote or they don't really they're not into politics.

They don't they don't care about what's happening because politicians are all the same and they don't they're completely disengaged.

And to me, that's heartbreaking.

Yeah.

That's taking the power away from people.

Right.

You have a bunch of cowards on the Republican side.

Even when they're seeing this stuff happening, even though we know that they don't agree with it.

Even though we know they know it's morally wrong.

They are too afraid to speak out.

Martha Stewart.

I love Martha Stewart so much.

I really want to have her on my podcast.

Have you watched the doc?

She's a proud bitch and I love her.