Mariana van Zeller

With somebody who said that?

I'm not going to criticize your wife.

I don't either.

One of the first stories I did with my husband back in the day when we were still traveling and reporting together was actually in the Brazilian Amazon, and it was about one of the biggest diamond mines they've ever found.

And it was on Indian land, and white miners came in, and the Indians decided to revolt and killed and tortured and cut off the penises of 30 of them.

They killed 30 people, massacred and tortured lots of them.

And it was horrible.

And we went there and started investigating this.

And we weren't married.

He was my boyfriend at the time.

We were planning on getting married.

But we were in these little tiny, you know, wild west towns in the Amazon.

And the amount of people that we had come up to us and actually with little paper bags, like rolled paper with little diamonds on the side, asking us if we wanted to buy it for nothing, like close to nothing.

We thought about it, but we didn't.

No.

We actually went to the mines, and I remember.

That's what happens.

We went to gold mines in the Amazon as well for another story, is that when you're in these places, you can't stop looking at the ground.

They control the price that way.

Very smart.