Mariana van Zeller
π€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
It's almost impossible to get in.
Yeah, they know you.
That lady's not coming in.
She's not coming in.
Congo is really interesting.
We were there for an ape story.
And, you know, one of the things that happened with rare earth minerals and all of that is that the U.S.
used to control a lot of those mines.
And then China, they sold them to China.
And now a lot of the stuff we need for the future is in the hands of China.
That's very American.
Yeah, very American.
And it's stunningly beautiful.
We were doing a story about ape trafficking.
And it really is.
It's the second largest country in Africa in terms of land.
And it's got the most beautiful parks and rivers.
It could be, you know, a huge tourism destination.