Mariana van Zeller

No one is coming and hurting them.

But it's really dangerous work.

It takes resources.

The hope is that they can sort of turn a little bit of this area of the Congo to what has Rwanda nowadays.

You can go to Rwanda and you can go to Uganda and see gorillas.

And as tourists, you can pay a lot of money, but it provides jobs and helps the local economy.

So basically the idea is that you dissuade poachers from coming in, right?

And you give up jobs to people who would otherwise perhaps become poachers.

And so, yeah, that's being done.

And, yeah, it was actually incredible when we spent, I don't know, like three hours hiking through very thick jungle.

And you're seeing the signs that the gorillas are there.

You're seeing their poop is there.

They nested here.

And he's telling us along the way, but you're still unsure if you're actually going to see a gorilla there.

And suddenly they're completely nonchalant.

They say, oh, it's right here.

I was like, what?

And there's this huge silverback gorilla just sitting there.

And the whole family is there.

They had had a baby.