Mariana van Zeller

If the police shows up, you guys are all dead.

So we're in a corner of L.A., close to downtown, and I'm constantly looking at the end of the road thinking if the police shows up for any reason, he's going to think it's us.

Yeah.

And this is not good.

So, yeah, it was a quick interview, but a chilling one.

He said more than 10.

He didn't say exactly how many.

I asked him.

I also started asking him personal questions about, do you have a family?

Because he was saying he doesn't kill women or children.

I asked him, but do you have kids?

And do you realize, like, what would it be like for your kids to live without you?

You're doing the same to other kids, right?

He got really mad at my questions and said, don't fucking ask me emotional questions or something like that, personal questions.

And this interview is over and left.

He said he came from a really tough family and that, yeah, involved in drugs and guns and all of it.

And he, I think, realized early on that he could do this and a lot of other people can't.

And he was able to do it and he gets well paid and he does it.

Yeah.

And you, I mean, that was my fear when we started looking into this story because it's a little bit of a Hollywood myth, right?