Mariana van Zeller

I think that we tend to look at how to try to stop the problem when it's already a problem without actually tackling the root causes of what is happening and why it's happening.

Yeah, also talking about security helps a lot of politicians, right?

Oh, yeah.

They have something that they're going to do to make it better.

Right, yeah.

But even outside of the U.S., I mean, these black markets, you know, so much of it, the lesson for me has always been when reporting on these black markets, it's all about inequality, right?

Mm-hmm.

Your choices are only as good as the opportunities you're given.

If you don't have those opportunities, you're going to become, you know, first like a watcher for the cartel and then eventually climb the ladder and become a Sicario.

It's the only job you have available for you.

Yeah.

And if your family doesn't have anything on the table to eat and they offer you $10, which will feed your family for a week to go and kill the chimp, you're going to go and kill the chimp.

Right.

That's the biggest problem.

Ten.

Eight are now on Hulu.

Two more are coming soon.

But one of them, another one, cartel involvement is about fake pharmaceutical pills.

That's really interesting.

We spent time with a group called La Union in Mexico City where 80% of their job, of their money right now comes from fake pharmaceutical pills.