Mariana van Zeller

And I mean, we don't, there's no way of verifying that it came from, but that it came from the black market.

So we don't know where the source is.

And he said, basically, you can judge me all you want.

But if you were dying or if your son or daughter was dying and you knew that the only way you could get this organ was on the black market, wouldn't you do it?

And it's a really good question.

Yeah.

I mean, right.

Right.

But he, he, yes, of course, if you know who's being, can I get a bad guy's liver?

If you know that someone's evil, if it's healthy or not.

Yeah, it's horrible.

But again, broken system.

17 Americans die every day waiting for an organ.

And the system is broken, so people have to go and look in the black market.

And I do think that if you go, most people don't probably think that this is coming from vulnerable, poor immigrants.

No.

And there's plenty of people out there that are willing to sell their organs in places like India and even Mexico.

the organs that they can live without.

No.

That's why I love to come to your shows.