Mariana van Zeller

There were dirty, dirty, horrible doctors that knew there were people dying, and they couldn't give a shit because they were making millions of dollars.

designed to be corrupt I mean how is it possible that you can go I remember I'll never forget interviewing the mother of a kid who had just died and then a few months later her other kid died so she had two sons and she lost both of them to this and it was all because of the pain clinics and she was showing me the pain but the painkiller bottles the prescription bottles that the kid got it was it was like hundreds and hundreds of pain pills that the kid got from just they were just selling them

2008, 2009, that's when we did our story.

I know, but everybody was just making so much money.

The doctors, the pain clinics, the distributors, the pharmaceutical companies.

The Sackler family.

Exactly.

I was about to say that.

What happened was that the settlement, they agreed to settle as long as they were never found.

The family itself was never found liable again, which is fucked up.

And I mean, it's been a million people who have died in the past 20 something years from the opiate crisis.

It's crazy.

I don't think people realize how high the number is.

Yeah, with a drop in the bucket.

I mean, they're not directly guilty of all those deaths, but they created the problem of the opioid crisis, the biggest drug epidemic in America's history.

And they're buying their way out with a drop in the bucket of the profits.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He approved what?

From just becoming the original OxyContin?