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Mariana van Zeller

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3010 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And I mean, the videos out of these places were insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

Like people with horrific wounds and people dying and killed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

Yeah, and just forced to scam, forced to fucking scam.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

Yeah, forced into scamming.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And then we interviewed a girl called Angel who was raped repeatedly by her bosses, and she's sort of the face model.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

So a lot of times after speaking to these what they think are romantic relationships for a long time, they want to see people's faces.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

So this is the girl that then they put a fake AI face on top of her, but it has to be a girl because of the mannerisms and the voice.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And they have this girl who actually speaks English.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And she would talk to victims of scams and pretend that she was the wonderful woman that they'd been dating for months.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And convince them to put their money into this crypto business that was fake.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And take millions out of these victims.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

So this woman starts crying and telling me how she knows she's doing something awful and how she's raped and how she doesn't want to be doing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And at the end she says, I just want your โ€“ I said yes to doing this even though it's incredibly dangerous.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

But I accepted doing this because I just want a message for the victims in America, the people that I've spoken to, that I'm sorry.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

I just want to apologize for all the harm that I've caused.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And she's like in tears, but I have no way out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

I mean, these are heart-wrenching, heart-wrenching stories.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And the last day we were there, we were able to โ€“ there's this amazing organization called Acts of Mercy, religious-based organization that is working to try to get these people out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And a lot of these bosses actually โ€“ you can pay for ransom.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

You can pay $10,000 to save a person from there.