Mariana van Zeller

They actually start, they go to small towns and they distribute it in grocery stores and they don't go to like a Walmart or a big superstore.

They go to small first.

And that's how it gets in the general.

So they just buy things with it?

They buy things and...

I wish I remember this was five years ago.

They buy things, but they also have people that exchange that for less cash.

Yeah, that's what it was.

I think they end up getting people.

Yeah, that know.

And they end up getting like 70 percent of what I think of something like 70 percent of the actual cost for real bills.

So they get real money in exchange for.

I mean, the whole operation, I think, was.

Back in profit, yeah.

The head of the group that then sells the bills when they're made.

Yeah, I have to verify.

Again, this was five years ago.

We've done 50 episodes, but I think it was something like that, if I remember correctly.

Yeah.

And so one of the things we started was we reported on a lot of these small businesses that found out that they were having massive amounts of loss every year from fake bills.