Mariana van Zeller
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And, you know, we share this border with Mexico, which is fortunate and very unfortunate for them.
They blame us for creating the consumer market.
We blame them for creating the drugs that feed this consumer market.
We've talked about this before.
We had a little bit of a debate about this last time because I keep giving the example of Portugal, and you said, which has decriminalized drugs, right?
I know Portugal is not the United States.
We're 10 million people.
We're a small country.
But whatever, it worked there.
Drug abuse went down.
Incarceration went down.
Levels of HIV went down.
So it worked there.
They tried it in Oregon, right?
Yeah, and also they didn't have the system in place for people who actually wanted rehab.
And so when you don't, what are people going to do?
They're going to go back to drugs.