Marianne Lewis

Humanize.

Tell people your story.

Listen to other people's stories.

How do you connect in new ways?

I think there's so much we can do here.

And we've got to decide, are we moving in further vicious cycles or is it time to lift up our heads and break out of the insanity and think differently?

Sure.

We're big fans of Brene Brown, and we think that she is such a both-and thinker.

I think it does go back to the core of confidence and how do you build both sides of that coin, because it fits with the emotions as well.

If we don't put ourselves in discomfort, how do we ever know that we're strong enough to work through it, right?

How do we kind of push ourselves?

It's the, I've actually got her Theodore Roosevelt quote sitting on my desk.

I'm looking at it, but about being, putting yourself into the arena and having those difficult conversations, not because you're seeking a fight, but because you're seeking to learn, to understand.

And that's a real challenge to work through.

Another author that Wendy and I certainly value is Tara Brock.

And I think the paradox of change and stability builds into this as well.

Thank you, Heather.

Thank you for all your work as well.