Marie Arana

Of course.

And I'm thinking of you, the Venezuelans, your compatriots, who are more than 8 million already, who have stopped living in their country in the last 10 years.

Imagine, it's a biblical exodus.

And they are everywhere in Latin America and growing here in this country.

It's something impressive, scary, what they have sacrificed to leave their country and earn their life elsewhere.

It's incredible, it's incredible.

Of course, they come out as teachers and they arrive as workers in markets, doing what they can, right?

But it's incredible, that sense of, well, it's a desperation, right?

You sacrifice everything, your profession, your family, everything, to change life in that way.

It's something that's happening a lot in this world, Ricardo.

Yes.

Yes.

As they say, the Global South.

Correct.

The Global South.

está dejando de vivir en sus países y viniendo al norte y es un problema que tenemos ahora en todo el mundo.

We're in the middle of all that, yes.

Yes, yes, from the beginning, from the beginning, as I say, in the Revolution, we have fought in the Civil War, the same.

In all the wars, the First World War, the Second, Vietnam,

En Afganistan, yo creo que 25% de los Marines, las marinas de los Estados Unidos, the U.S.