Marie Ng

Growth rate-wise, we are growing 20% month-on-month gross MRR.

Yeah, so you're right.

So I bootstrapped it to 700 paying customers.

That was kind of the original plan, but it was a bit serendipitous.

So I was building in public on Twitter and someone from Jason Calacanis' team saw Llama Life

And they bought the product.

They really liked it.

And they DM'd me on Twitter and they said, hey, we can see that you're bootstrapping.

Have you ever thought about joining an accelerator program?

And, you know, I had thought about an accelerator in the past.

I've actually done a few startups before Llama Life.

And I did actually go the VC path a long time ago.

Not a huge amount.

It was a very, very small check at the time for a different business.

And, you know, I'd kind of been through that experience.

And this time I thought I'd bootstrap it.

But because it was Jason Calacanis, a huge angel investor, he invested in Uber and Calm and a lot of other huge businesses very early on.

I thought, you know, I'd take the conversation.

I'd take the call.

And we had a call.