Marion Nestle

Well, it's been incredibly challenging bridging these two areas of public health, the human side and the animal side. You see USDA does all the animal testing and handles that stuff. Then you have CDC and other folks looking for infections in humans. And, you know, there's limited authority on the human side.

So it's been a challenge throughout the last year as we've seen this response going on, making these decisions. Different groups speak to each other. And also, of course, the industry, the dairy industry, the egg industry, you know, wants to be protective of kind of who's identified as having outbreaks. They don't want their business to be harmed.

So it's been a challenge throughout the last year as we've seen this response going on, making these decisions. Different groups speak to each other. And also, of course, the industry, the dairy industry, the egg industry, you know, wants to be protective of kind of who's identified as having outbreaks. They don't want their business to be harmed.

So it's been a challenge throughout the last year as we've seen this response going on, making these decisions. Different groups speak to each other. And also, of course, the industry, the dairy industry, the egg industry, you know, wants to be protective of kind of who's identified as having outbreaks. They don't want their business to be harmed.

And this all makes it really hard sometimes for from a communication standpoint.

And this all makes it really hard sometimes for from a communication standpoint.

And this all makes it really hard sometimes for from a communication standpoint.

So RFK has this messaging around raw milk, right? We're talking about bird flu. He's a big proponent of raw milk and talking about getting all kinds of additives and kind of pesticides out of our food. And at the same time, the platform of the Trump administration is generally deregulate things. So there are internal kind of

So RFK has this messaging around raw milk, right? We're talking about bird flu. He's a big proponent of raw milk and talking about getting all kinds of additives and kind of pesticides out of our food. And at the same time, the platform of the Trump administration is generally deregulate things. So there are internal kind of

So RFK has this messaging around raw milk, right? We're talking about bird flu. He's a big proponent of raw milk and talking about getting all kinds of additives and kind of pesticides out of our food. And at the same time, the platform of the Trump administration is generally deregulate things. So there are internal kind of

tensions here around how all of this is going to happen when we think about just regulation around food and ingredients in general. I mean, when we think about bird flu specifically, RFK Jr. has made it clear that, you know, he doesn't really think the vaccines are any good. I mean, he said they appear dangerous, you know, last year on Twitter.

tensions here around how all of this is going to happen when we think about just regulation around food and ingredients in general. I mean, when we think about bird flu specifically, RFK Jr. has made it clear that, you know, he doesn't really think the vaccines are any good. I mean, he said they appear dangerous, you know, last year on Twitter.

tensions here around how all of this is going to happen when we think about just regulation around food and ingredients in general. I mean, when we think about bird flu specifically, RFK Jr. has made it clear that, you know, he doesn't really think the vaccines are any good. I mean, he said they appear dangerous, you know, last year on Twitter.

And he would have huge influence over how this response is handled as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.

And he would have huge influence over how this response is handled as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.

And he would have huge influence over how this response is handled as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Of course.

Of course.

Of course.

Let's go. Sure.