Marjolein Robertson
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Last time you let slip that you have a degree in archaeology. Yes. And we immediately went, uh-uh, this is interesting, how much will she know? Well, that's the thing, because I did not know much about Robert Bruce at all, but I did do my dissertation on the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Olin kirjoittanut, miten Gilgameshin epikirja on muuttunut eri voimakkaiden vÀlillÀ bronzitilanteissa. Se oli niin pahaa, ettÀ olin melkein pahannut koko koulutukseni sen takia. Ajattelin, ettÀ Gilgamesh, muistan tÀmÀn. Sitten ajattelin, ettÀ en muista. En edes muista, mikÀ on Tigris ja mikÀ Eufreitis. Olen todella rosti.
Okei, joten seuraava kurssi sinulle. Se tulee olemaan. Se tulee myös olemaan kuten minun laittamani syrjintÀÀ yliopistoon. En tiedÀ, olisinko edes voinut nimetÀ yliopistoon. Koska kun sanoit siitÀ, olin niin, ettÀ haluaisin kuulla tÀstÀ taas, mutta en muista mitÀÀn siitÀ.
Okei, me pystymme ratkaisemaan sitÀ. MinÀ muistan bronzitilannetta. Okei, meillÀ on kaksi bronzitilannetta-eksporttia. MinÀ en kutsu itseÀni siihen. MeillÀ on kaksi ihmistÀ, joilla tiedetÀÀn, kun se oli. SinÀ edelleen nÀytÀt huomattavaksi. KyllÀ, koska myös minua miettii, koska Shetlandin bronzitilannetta oli todennÀköisesti, kun kaikkea muuta ei ollut. KyllÀ, hieman myöhemmin. MinÀ olen hieman takana molemmissa aspeksissa tÀstÀ esitystÀ.
Well, that's a very good summary. Well done. I already have a question. Go for it, yeah. So you say the tablets were a script, not a language. Sorry if that's really obvious to all the listeners. No, it's fine. This is for their benefit and mostly mine.
KyllÀ. Sanoin, ettÀ muuttuvat valitettavuudet, mutta ajattelin, ettÀ 3 000 vuotta olisi perusnÀköinen nimi, joka jÀljitettiin yhdellÀ yhdellÀ yhdellÀ. Se on todella mielenkiintoinen mahdollisuus. Kiitos.
Gilgamesh on hieman hankalampi. HÀn on kaksi kolmeaikainen Jumala, kaksi kolmeaikainen ihmis. Se tuntuu hieman haastavalta. En tiedÀ miksi. Ratio tuntuu pahalta. Se on polyamorous parenting? Miten se olisi tapahtunut? Miten se voisi olla kolmeaikainen luominen? EhkÀ olet oikeassa. Onko se kuten Zuzan tyyli?
Oh, so godly mum, mortal dad. And then somehow Ea pops into the mix, but makes him only one third god. What? Sorry. It's alright. Math is my weakest point. I think we can all agree, none of us are particularly good on the math thing. Two gods and one mortal makes one third god.
YleisimmÀllÀ kysymyksellÀ, Marjolaine, jos olisit voimakas, mitÀ valitsisit? Voisitko olla yksi kolmannen tai kaksi kolmannen voimakas, mitÀ valitsisit? Kaksi kolmannen voimakas, mutta olisin voimakas... MeillÀ on voimakas, joka kutsutaan Seamidr. Seamidr. Olisin voimakas hÀnestÀ, jotta voin vierailla ja vierailla. Joten olisit voimakas, jota haluaisit voimakas. KyllÀ, yksi kolmannen voimakas. Yksi kolmannen voimakas. Miksi ei? Se on vain voimakas.
Well, I always feel like when they want to make themselves grandois, if that's the word and how you pronounce it in French. Sorry, are you saying grandiose there? No, I'm saying grandois as in very large and grand. Oh, I like it. They want to make themselves super tall, but also I feel like back then they were just shorter anyway. So I think he went for the lofty height of 5'11".
9 tai 11 kautta. Tai 18 kautta, sanoitko? 18! Joten he sanoivat, ettÀ kerrotaan. En tunne, mutta kun olen menossa 9, niin kerrotaan. 18 kautta. Okei, joten hÀn on melkein niin iso kuin bussi. Joten kun nÀet heidÀn statuutensa aiemmin pÀivÀnÀ, he sanovat, ettÀ ei, se on vain mÀÀrÀ.
Which makes me question what source I used. But I'll tell you this, when I did my course on Romans, I used to use Rotten Romans. Did you? The Horrible Histories books? Yes, and my professor said, how did you know that? Because I used to come out with facts that the professors didn't know, and I'd have to be like, quote...
TÀmÀ on yksi asia, josta muistan, ettÀ tÀmÀ on yksi asia, josta muistan tÀstÀ tarinasta, jota otetaan siitÀ, mitÀ voit. He saavat todella mielenkiintoisen naisen. He sopivat hÀnelle hyvÀn kuuluvan öljyn. Ja he sanovat, ettÀ nÀytÀ hÀnelle, miksi hÀn haluaa mennÀ yhteiskuntaan. Ja hÀn edustaa hÀnet. Ja Enkidu sanoo, ettÀ haluaisin olla ihmisiÀ ja elÀimiÀ. Ja nÀin loppuu minun tietoani.
Does that have any kind of similarities to the Garden of Eden story and Adam and Eve living in harmony with nature and then getting this knowledge and then being outcast from the garden itself? It's an interesting question. Yeah, it is sort of similar, isn't it? A man who lives with nature and then a woman comes along and ruins it. I'm sorry. Given the best seven nights ever. I was going to say ruins it or vastly improves his life, let's be honest. And then Gilgamesh sort of shows up.
I just feel like Gilgamesh has shown no remorse so far, that I just don't see him showing remorse now. Also I feel like Gilgamesh, if he's real or not, has had a real hand in writing this tale. So I'm like, Gilgamesh did something bad, but he's still great. Oh, you think he authors his own quest narrative? Of course.
Oh, okay. And you think he's going, no, put that I was really tall. Eighteen feet. Eighteen. Make me taller, make me older, make my name start with a G. I defeat the forest monster. I don't know, do they fall out? Does Enki do fall out of Gilgamesh? I don't want them to break up, though. I want Gilgamesh to grow and learn and go to therapy, like I was promised. But maybe they have to break up.
Would he go after Anu? Wow. That would be a power move. I mean, I wouldn't put it past this guy. Okay, so Mary Lane thinks that it's sort of revenge mission. I mean, to be honest, if he did go for revenge mission, that would probably be the most coherent structural journey thing he's done so far in this story. So maybe he doesn't, but coherently he'd go for revenge. Okay, interesting. I mean, you're right that there's no growth in that he then...
Sitten hÀn tÀytyy, jotka katsotaan hÀnet yksin ja sanovat, ettÀ sinÀ nÀytÀt pahalta, me jÀtetÀÀn sinut lÀpi. No mitÀ? Me nÀemme pahalta. Oh, pahalta, ettÀ hÀn on rikki. KyllÀ, oikeasti. Oh, todella? KyllÀ, kyllÀ. MeillÀ ei ole, ettÀ sinÀ et laittaa pelejÀ, vaan menet. He tuntevat, ettÀ hÀn on pahalta. KyllÀ. Se on hieman yllÀttÀvÀÀ, itse asiassa. Kun menet nautiklubiin ja he eivÀt tunne, ettÀ sinÀ poistat ongelmia tÀÀllÀ. KyllÀ.
Just come in, it's fine. You just sit in the corner and be sad. Here's maybe the dumbest question I'll ask all the time, because you said the sun both rises and sets there. Is it a real mountain that we know of geographically? We think it might be the Zagros mountains. Oh really?
I love that there are pubs in the Gemstone Forest. It's just nice to know that there are pubs everywhere. Not to be stereotypical about it, but this is the man's equivalent to if I was to go out without makeup on. And other people are like, why am I in? You look really ill. You look so ill. What's wrong with your face? I'm like, just haven't covered in foundation.