Mark Baxter

So they just grit their teeth and kind of get on with it.

They'll drink more.

They'll work more.

They'll do all the coping strategies to try to do it and try to get through.

And yeah, it isn't until things get really desperate, you know, a few months or a few years down the track that they'll seek help.

And the other thing is people go to see a psychologist or someone else.

And with PTSD, we do need specific treatments that really target how it's held in the nervous system and how it's held in the belief system.

Just talk therapy alone doesn't help post-traumatic stress disorder.

For some people with great internal resources and good support sessions, talk therapies can be quite good.

That person can make sense of what's happened.

They can get the support and validation and that can trigger this natural healing process that can work really well.

But for many people who are stuck in PTSD, they need kind of much more than that.

Yeah, so EMDR is like one of those therapies that came out in the late 80s.

It's been around for a long period of time, but it's one of those therapies that we're utilizing a body-based method with a kind of cognitive and talk therapy method.

So when it first came out, people were like a little bit suspicious of it because we weren't used to utilizing the nervous system.

Yeah, people thought it's woo-woo.

We thought all psychological problems are in the mind, even though we haven't defined what mind is yet in psychology.

We don't know what we're talking about yet.

It's interesting in another podcast.

Consciousness.