Mark Bouris

Now, where are you living, Ross?

Actually, when I look at you, and I have seen you before.

We haven't spoken before, I don't think, but I have seen you before.

And when I look at you, especially when I do it through Riverside, so you're not actually sitting in front of me, I've just got your face framed, and I can see your broad shoulders and your shirt, and you look like a detective.

You've got that look in your eye, right?

Yeah, that's very interesting.

So what do you put that down to?

Because, I mean, we are going to talk a little bit in a moment about aliens and UFOs and all those sorts of wonderful things, which I'm so intrigued about.

And not just in a theoretical sense, but more as an investigator.

I want to talk to you about it.

You're going to talk to me about it, I hope.

But what is it that drives an investigative journalist?

Is it just curiosity or is it I want to know the truth?

It's interesting you just mentioned in your discussion then about mainstream media and also certain interest groups.

When someone says something of a contrarian view of what looks like to be contrarian relative to the accepted or conventional, let's call it wisdom, of the time, for example, global warming, for example...

aliens, UFOs.

The simple retort of those who hold the mainstream view, the mainstream media, is that the individual who's raising this point is a conspiracy theorist.

They're talking about a conspiracy.

I often wonder to myself, maybe the conspiracy is on the other side or potentially both sides.

Who's the conspiracy theorist?