Mark Bowden

Maureen, thanks for having me.

A new year, but some of the old candidates back in the frame, I think.

Some of the old troublemakers still with us.

Well, look, as you know, Maureen, often I don't know as much as you do and your viewers do about the context of what's happening around here.

So I watch this and I instantly go, here's somebody on a bit of a PR campaign, it would seem to me, about don't judge people too harshly.

He says, look, he always learned that you, you know, you can't judge your character.

And there's an upturn of the side of his mouth asymmetrically into contempt.

So he's kind of contemptuous either of the idea of judging people or maybe even being judged himself.

There's that off the bat.

Then a big eyebrow raise.

OK, I look for approval on he's doing these things, but he doesn't think there's anything wrong with them.

You know, people who are doing bad things, they often don't think there's anything wrong with them.

And he's looking for your approval on this.

So there's contempt, possibly, for the idea of being judged, and also that look of approval for doing bad things.

He kind of suggests...

There's an unfairness in being judged and people who judge others.

And if you're getting judged by people who judge others, it's quite adolescent.

It's like being back at school.

If you're judging people, Maureen, you're just a kid doing that.

That's what he's saying.