Mark Dubowitz

That's Khamenei's view.

He can actually, building up this massive ballistic missile arsenal that he's unleashed in the past 12 days,

that, according to, again, the US and Israel, was going to go from 2,000 to 6,000 to 20,000, that from Khamenei's perspective, he didn't need to drop a nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv.

What he needed to do was use the threat of nuclear escalation in order to use his conventional capabilities, his missiles, to destroy Tel Aviv.

And you've already seen the damage from just a few

dozen ballistic missiles getting through the kind of damage that he's wrought on Tel Aviv already.

That is the conception that Khamenei has.

It's a revolutionary regime.

It aggresses.

And I do think it's interesting, and I think we should talk about it.

Can I ask you a question?

Just not a comment by me, but a question, just your perspective.

So just so I understand this.

So the nuclear archive, this massive archive that the Israelis were able to take out of Tehran

bring to the United States, bring to the IAEA, which is very detailed blueprints.

It's just the alleged studies documents again.

It's the same stuff from the smoking laptop.

Yeah.

So let me just ask you, because it's huge and it's very detailed and it shows clearly that Iran had an active nuclear weapons program, certainly until 2003.

And then we can have a discussion about what happened after that.