Mark Dubowitz

And now it is dispersed and it is unstructured in that sense because they recognize that if they continue with this, the United States may march to Tehran.

And so the NIE says Iran is retaining the key capabilities, the enrichment capabilities to give them an option for a nuclear weapon.

But we, the NIE, have decided or we have concluded that they no longer have an active, structured nuclear weapons program.

However, since then,

What have we seen?

We've seen them actually do what many suspected they would do, which is build all the key capabilities that they need so that at time of their choosing, they can decide

to develop a nuclear bomb, whether it's a crude nuclear device, as you've described, whether it's a nuclear warhead.

We've had that discussion so far.

But just, sorry, just to finish.

So just understand the brilliance of Iranian nuclear deception, right?

I think it's really interesting to get in the minds of the Ayatollah and understand this, because he doesn't want to provoke the United States.

He doesn't want to see another Iraq-style invasion, this time of his country.

He's building this capability on the enrichment side and on the reprocessing side.

He is framing this as I'm only building a civilian nuclear program.

He's taking the weapons scientists who are building part of an active nuclear weapons program and he's dispersing them

putting them under the guidance and direction of Fakhrizadeh and starting to build out these capabilities.

I mean, I admire, I have to say, I really admire the way he's played this three-dimensional nuclear chess game.

It's very, very interesting.

And I think he made a tragic mistake

about six weeks ago when he rejected the offer from Trump at Oman and then provoked both an Israeli and then an American strike.