Mark Duplass

Yeah.

And joking about hard things, like how the...

Chinese government felt about him, when he was going to die, like dark things.

But the only way to have that conversation in a way that felt like it was going to illuminate anything was gallows humor.

he used uses humor to connect not in that interview but i had seen him talk about it in another one which is what where i thought if i think i've got cover yeah if that's how you feel right we'll be fine if it's not how you're feeling something you said we're in big fucking trouble right right i mean i'm about to cause the international incident yeah did he did he say why he said yes

I don't know why he said yes at all.

But it was quite fun fucking with him.

And it felt like the best way to tell the story that we were going to tell, to make him seem like a human being.

He is.

A deity is inhuman, right?

Exactly.

And he is going to die, and the Chinese government really want that to happen.

And that is both really dark and darkly funny.

We have a different relationship to the C word.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

I have been sent key rings or things with that word on it that as they became able- That is the word.

We're talking about cunt.

We're going to be talking about cunt.

I will never forget.