Mark Elias

I think people should be concerned.

I mean, the fact is that Donald Trump is telling us that if he doesn't like the outcome of the elections, that he will seize ballots and he will use the full force of the federal government, the executive branch in particular,

to alter the outcome.

I mean, this is not actually that revolutionary.

I mean, as you point out, there was an executive order that he was prepared to sign in 2020.

He didn't sign it in large measure, from what we can tell, because the White House Counsel's Office would have resigned, others in the White House would have resigned, and then people at the Department of Justice told him he couldn't do it.

Well, I'd ask you, who exactly is going to resign?

Is it going to be Stephen Miller?

Do we think Stephen Miller is going to get in the way?

Do we think that Pam Bondi is going to be the one saying you can't do it?

No.

He's surrounded by enablers.

And so, you know, I think you got it exactly right, Jen.

As he becomes less and less popular, he is looking for ways to keep power.

So first he went with the mid-cycle redistricting.

That looks like that didn't quite lead to the bounty that he had hoped.

Maybe it'll even backfire in places like Texas.

And now he is rolling out the idea that he will –

you know, take control of the elections.

And to be clear, he, at the end of that quote, says nationalize the election.