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Mark Fisher

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Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

This is an aspect of this conspiracy theory that Kash Patel somehow never gets around to talking about.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

He sees the FBI as kind of a rogue operation.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And so it fits in with his overall theory of this deep state that is the real governing factor in the United States.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And this deep state doing its own thing, seeding these sources into the January 6th attack groups without perhaps the knowledge of Trump and the Trump administration.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And, you know, the FBI did have some contacts who were from time to time inside some of the militia groups.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So were they there for the purpose of encouraging those groups to take this more violent approach on January 6th?

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

No evidence has been presented along those lines.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And yet it's been years now that he's been pushing this theory and saying that once he got inside, he would reveal the evidence.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Well, nothing's been revealed.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

I believe that the president said it first, but Kash Patel quickly adopted this idea that everything that was at Mar-a-Lago was there legally simply because the president had taken it there.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

This is completely contrary to the law.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

In 1978, Congress passed the Presidential Records Act, and that prohibits former presidents from taking any official records.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

whether they were classified or not, from taking them with them when they left office.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Well, Trump brought a lot of those things down to Mar-a-Lago.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And Patel has said several times when he worked in the White House in the first Trump administration that he watched the president declassify documents so that he could take them with him to Florida.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So since Patel had said this in various public settings, he was then summoned to testify by prosecutors to testify before a grand jury about, OK, what did you see?

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Which documents were they?

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And what did the president do when he was declassifying them?

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Well, he gets to the grand jury and all of a sudden Patel is taking the Fifth Amendment saying that he's not going to answer any questions because he has this right against self-incrimination.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So the prosecutor said, well, OK, we'll get you immunity.