Mark Follman
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So there were his roommates, their friend. Then he went to a sorority house through a stroke of good fortune. It turned out there weren't many people there. Most of the members of the sorority had gone on a trip to Las Vegas and he couldn't get in the house, so he left.
He ended up shooting three women on the street, killing two and injuring one, and then went around town on this rampage, eventually targeting, as I mentioned earlier, the street, Del Playa Drive, where all the house parties happened in Isla Vista, which was a focus of his grievance. It was a fixation for him. And that goes back to the question of warning signs.
He ended up shooting three women on the street, killing two and injuring one, and then went around town on this rampage, eventually targeting, as I mentioned earlier, the street, Del Playa Drive, where all the house parties happened in Isla Vista, which was a focus of his grievance. It was a fixation for him. And that goes back to the question of warning signs.
He ended up shooting three women on the street, killing two and injuring one, and then went around town on this rampage, eventually targeting, as I mentioned earlier, the street, Del Playa Drive, where all the house parties happened in Isla Vista, which was a focus of his grievance. It was a fixation for him. And that goes back to the question of warning signs.
He was writing about this and making videos about it and doing a good job of keeping it secret. But one of the things that the story suggests is that had there been a threat assessment team in place back then, you might have had people involved who would know more what to look for and get access to material like that and understand what's going on with him.
He was writing about this and making videos about it and doing a good job of keeping it secret. But one of the things that the story suggests is that had there been a threat assessment team in place back then, you might have had people involved who would know more what to look for and get access to material like that and understand what's going on with him.
He was writing about this and making videos about it and doing a good job of keeping it secret. But one of the things that the story suggests is that had there been a threat assessment team in place back then, you might have had people involved who would know more what to look for and get access to material like that and understand what's going on with him.
He had been beaten up at a party on that street almost a year prior, and that became a major triggering event for him, a public humiliation for him that really set him much more, I think, hardcore on this pathway to violence, his planning to attack. He'd already thought about it and already started to plan it, but that was, I think, a real pivotal moment.
He had been beaten up at a party on that street almost a year prior, and that became a major triggering event for him, a public humiliation for him that really set him much more, I think, hardcore on this pathway to violence, his planning to attack. He'd already thought about it and already started to plan it, but that was, I think, a real pivotal moment.
He had been beaten up at a party on that street almost a year prior, and that became a major triggering event for him, a public humiliation for him that really set him much more, I think, hardcore on this pathway to violence, his planning to attack. He'd already thought about it and already started to plan it, but that was, I think, a real pivotal moment.
I know that sounds really dark and it is, but here's the thing. That was 10 months before he carried out his attack. Oh, wow. So you can look back at this case and say that was a 10 month window for intervention. And a lot more things happened between that event and what he did, where he was showing warning behaviors, people were concerned about him.
I know that sounds really dark and it is, but here's the thing. That was 10 months before he carried out his attack. Oh, wow. So you can look back at this case and say that was a 10 month window for intervention. And a lot more things happened between that event and what he did, where he was showing warning behaviors, people were concerned about him.
I know that sounds really dark and it is, but here's the thing. That was 10 months before he carried out his attack. Oh, wow. So you can look back at this case and say that was a 10 month window for intervention. And a lot more things happened between that event and what he did, where he was showing warning behaviors, people were concerned about him.
And it's really an amazing case study for lessons learned and how to do better at stopping this.
And it's really an amazing case study for lessons learned and how to do better at stopping this.
And it's really an amazing case study for lessons learned and how to do better at stopping this.
No, I'm glad you raised that. And we can talk about it in the context of the Elliot Rodger case. That's one of multiple reasons why I invested so much in that story, because his story was an opportunity to talk about specifically to autism. It's the same as what I was just discussing with mental illness or mental health. It is not a cause of mass shootings.
No, I'm glad you raised that. And we can talk about it in the context of the Elliot Rodger case. That's one of multiple reasons why I invested so much in that story, because his story was an opportunity to talk about specifically to autism. It's the same as what I was just discussing with mental illness or mental health. It is not a cause of mass shootings.
No, I'm glad you raised that. And we can talk about it in the context of the Elliot Rodger case. That's one of multiple reasons why I invested so much in that story, because his story was an opportunity to talk about specifically to autism. It's the same as what I was just discussing with mental illness or mental health. It is not a cause of mass shootings.
There is no evidence to support that scientifically at all. There are cases of threat cases and cases of attacks where individuals were on the spectrum. But it is part of a very complicated mix of factors in a case of someone who may be going down what threat assessment calls the pathway to violence.