Mark Follman

They want to be known. They want to be a somebody instead of a nobody because they feel like nobody. Another way to think about it that I often have heard from experts in this field is these are people who want to seize control of their story, to seize power through violence because they feel powerless. They feel hopeless. They're suicidal.

And they've learned through media reaction that if, well, if I put on a nine-inch nails hat and pretend I'm a Columbine shooter or trench coat, that big myth from Columbine, I'm going to get more media coverage. I'm going to get more attention. And that's happened in a number of cases. The Elliot Rodgers story built on that trajectory too.

And they've learned through media reaction that if, well, if I put on a nine-inch nails hat and pretend I'm a Columbine shooter or trench coat, that big myth from Columbine, I'm going to get more media coverage. I'm going to get more attention. And that's happened in a number of cases. The Elliot Rodgers story built on that trajectory too.

And they've learned through media reaction that if, well, if I put on a nine-inch nails hat and pretend I'm a Columbine shooter or trench coat, that big myth from Columbine, I'm going to get more media coverage. I'm going to get more attention. And that's happened in a number of cases. The Elliot Rodgers story built on that trajectory too.

I mean, the people who came after him, this whole discussion of incels, hating women, became a narrative around mass shooters that other people picked up on. There are actually cases... That followed his where people were emulating him in that way that really wasn't even real. They were doing it because they knew it would get them attention.

I mean, the people who came after him, this whole discussion of incels, hating women, became a narrative around mass shooters that other people picked up on. There are actually cases... That followed his where people were emulating him in that way that really wasn't even real. They were doing it because they knew it would get them attention.

I mean, the people who came after him, this whole discussion of incels, hating women, became a narrative around mass shooters that other people picked up on. There are actually cases... That followed his where people were emulating him in that way that really wasn't even real. They were doing it because they knew it would get them attention.

Yeah. Just to clarify, young man, these are people in their 20s, but young. Yeah, that perpetrator in Toronto, I think the case was in 2018. So it was a few years after Elliot Rodger. And he posted on Facebook right before he drove the van down the street and plowed over a bunch of people. All hail Elliot. And then he's evaluated later by mental health professionals for his court proceedings.

Yeah. Just to clarify, young man, these are people in their 20s, but young. Yeah, that perpetrator in Toronto, I think the case was in 2018. So it was a few years after Elliot Rodger. And he posted on Facebook right before he drove the van down the street and plowed over a bunch of people. All hail Elliot. And then he's evaluated later by mental health professionals for his court proceedings.

Yeah. Just to clarify, young man, these are people in their 20s, but young. Yeah, that perpetrator in Toronto, I think the case was in 2018. So it was a few years after Elliot Rodger. And he posted on Facebook right before he drove the van down the street and plowed over a bunch of people. All hail Elliot. And then he's evaluated later by mental health professionals for his court proceedings.

And he essentially confesses to them, oh, that was a lie. I was just saying that because I knew it would get me a lot more attention. Now, that was a person who also had serious mental health problems, mental illness, but he was making a clear decision. And I think in evaluating all the forensic evidence of the case, there were three practitioners who all concluded, yeah, that was a lie.

And he essentially confesses to them, oh, that was a lie. I was just saying that because I knew it would get me a lot more attention. Now, that was a person who also had serious mental health problems, mental illness, but he was making a clear decision. And I think in evaluating all the forensic evidence of the case, there were three practitioners who all concluded, yeah, that was a lie.

And he essentially confesses to them, oh, that was a lie. I was just saying that because I knew it would get me a lot more attention. Now, that was a person who also had serious mental health problems, mental illness, but he was making a clear decision. And I think in evaluating all the forensic evidence of the case, there were three practitioners who all concluded, yeah, that was a lie.

He had really nothing to do with this incel ideology. But that shows you the power of that narrative that really started with Elliot Rodger and has been picked up on and repeated over and over to this day in media. The people who are engaging in this kind of behavior, they're aware of that. They're seeing these stories and they're paying attention.

He had really nothing to do with this incel ideology. But that shows you the power of that narrative that really started with Elliot Rodger and has been picked up on and repeated over and over to this day in media. The people who are engaging in this kind of behavior, they're aware of that. They're seeing these stories and they're paying attention.

He had really nothing to do with this incel ideology. But that shows you the power of that narrative that really started with Elliot Rodger and has been picked up on and repeated over and over to this day in media. The people who are engaging in this kind of behavior, they're aware of that. They're seeing these stories and they're paying attention.

There are plenty of cases where narcissism and unhealthy narcissism, malignant narcissism, the term from clinicians is a factor. Elliot Rogers' case is one of them. Again, it's a component of a very complex equation with people in this type of scenario.

There are plenty of cases where narcissism and unhealthy narcissism, malignant narcissism, the term from clinicians is a factor. Elliot Rogers' case is one of them. Again, it's a component of a very complex equation with people in this type of scenario.

There are plenty of cases where narcissism and unhealthy narcissism, malignant narcissism, the term from clinicians is a factor. Elliot Rogers' case is one of them. Again, it's a component of a very complex equation with people in this type of scenario.

I'll take a step back for a minute and just sort of explain what the paradigm of behavioral threat assessment is, because I think that context is important to this question too. So this is a community-based prevention method, violence prevention method that brings together collaborative expertise in mental health, in law enforcement, education, HR professionals in a workplace.