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Mark Follman

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Getting kicked out of school, getting fired from a job, a parent dying. There's some cases, recent school shooting cases like that where perpetrators lost their mother How are they dealing with that major life stressor? Do they show any resilience or are they fragile, brittle, isolating, showing more signs of depression?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

That's where the rubber really meets the road with evaluating a situation of concern. And there are many cases where you can point back, you can go back into the story and find those moments. And Elliot Rogers is one of those too. There were some major events in his last year or so of life that really showed some significant warning signs that he was on that pathway.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

That's where the rubber really meets the road with evaluating a situation of concern. And there are many cases where you can point back, you can go back into the story and find those moments. And Elliot Rogers is one of those too. There were some major events in his last year or so of life that really showed some significant warning signs that he was on that pathway.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

That's where the rubber really meets the road with evaluating a situation of concern. And there are many cases where you can point back, you can go back into the story and find those moments. And Elliot Rogers is one of those too. There were some major events in his last year or so of life that really showed some significant warning signs that he was on that pathway.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Yes, that's what I was talking about a little bit earlier, the threatening communications. The term leakage was actually, it's interesting, it was developed out of FBI's serial killer profiling back in the 1980s.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Yes, that's what I was talking about a little bit earlier, the threatening communications. The term leakage was actually, it's interesting, it was developed out of FBI's serial killer profiling back in the 1980s.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Yes, that's what I was talking about a little bit earlier, the threatening communications. The term leakage was actually, it's interesting, it was developed out of FBI's serial killer profiling back in the 1980s.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

That was the theory that someone who's going around killing people and they're trying to figure out who's doing it is an unknown perpetrator, that eventually they're going to leak out what they're doing. through some kind of communication. That term was really applied to this behavioral process, the study of targeted violence of school mass shooters.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

That was the theory that someone who's going around killing people and they're trying to figure out who's doing it is an unknown perpetrator, that eventually they're going to leak out what they're doing. through some kind of communication. That term was really applied to this behavioral process, the study of targeted violence of school mass shooters.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

That was the theory that someone who's going around killing people and they're trying to figure out who's doing it is an unknown perpetrator, that eventually they're going to leak out what they're doing. through some kind of communication. That term was really applied to this behavioral process, the study of targeted violence of school mass shooters.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

How are they communicating what they're feeling or what they're thinking? Again, it's comments they might make to people, third parties, or people close to them, or things they might write or post online. One specific example, a case I write about in Trigger Points is a high school kid in Oregon who One day at the bus stop, he says to a peer, hey, don't come to school on Friday.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

How are they communicating what they're feeling or what they're thinking? Again, it's comments they might make to people, third parties, or people close to them, or things they might write or post online. One specific example, a case I write about in Trigger Points is a high school kid in Oregon who One day at the bus stop, he says to a peer, hey, don't come to school on Friday.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

How are they communicating what they're feeling or what they're thinking? Again, it's comments they might make to people, third parties, or people close to them, or things they might write or post online. One specific example, a case I write about in Trigger Points is a high school kid in Oregon who One day at the bus stop, he says to a peer, hey, don't come to school on Friday.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

I'm coming back here with my dad's gun and I'm going to shoot up the place. That's pretty clear leakage. Now, a comment like that alone, again, may not tell you anything. I think in this day and age, if a kid says that, people are going to pay attention. But what else was going on with this kid? That was the role of the threat assessment team in the school system.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

I'm coming back here with my dad's gun and I'm going to shoot up the place. That's pretty clear leakage. Now, a comment like that alone, again, may not tell you anything. I think in this day and age, if a kid says that, people are going to pay attention. But what else was going on with this kid? That was the role of the threat assessment team in the school system.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

I'm coming back here with my dad's gun and I'm going to shoot up the place. That's pretty clear leakage. Now, a comment like that alone, again, may not tell you anything. I think in this day and age, if a kid says that, people are going to pay attention. But what else was going on with this kid? That was the role of the threat assessment team in the school system.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

And there was a lot more to that story. He had made other comments like this in months past. He was going through some personal deterioration, dropping out of a drama club, and his grades are going down, and his mom's reporting that he's not waking up in the morning. There's all kinds of stuff going on with this kid that's signaling, hey, he's going in a

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

And there was a lot more to that story. He had made other comments like this in months past. He was going through some personal deterioration, dropping out of a drama club, and his grades are going down, and his mom's reporting that he's not waking up in the morning. There's all kinds of stuff going on with this kid that's signaling, hey, he's going in a

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

And there was a lot more to that story. He had made other comments like this in months past. He was going through some personal deterioration, dropping out of a drama club, and his grades are going down, and his mom's reporting that he's not waking up in the morning. There's all kinds of stuff going on with this kid that's signaling, hey, he's going in a

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

first or the most because it makes them feel weird. In that case, actually, it was another student who overheard that comment at the bus stop and she was freaked out and she told a teacher, which was great. That's what the field of threat assessment wants. It's a component of this process that's really fundamentally important. They call it the bystander or upstander component