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Mark Follman

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Is he still a concern? And if so, what can we do for him? There are a lot of different measures that a team will take. I think in an education setting, first and foremost, you're talking about what is school like for this kid? Does he like being at school? Most kids actually like to be in school, believe it or not.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Is he still a concern? And if so, what can we do for him? There are a lot of different measures that a team will take. I think in an education setting, first and foremost, you're talking about what is school like for this kid? Does he like being at school? Most kids actually like to be in school, believe it or not.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Is he still a concern? And if so, what can we do for him? There are a lot of different measures that a team will take. I think in an education setting, first and foremost, you're talking about what is school like for this kid? Does he like being at school? Most kids actually like to be in school, believe it or not.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

The alternatives at that age maybe aren't so great. And because they have friends, that's important. Brandon had a bunch of friends, so that's good. He had a social life, but he perceived that he was very lonely. He perceived that he didn't have friends. So that was an important question for the clinicians involved. Why is he seeing himself with such acute, low self-esteem?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

The alternatives at that age maybe aren't so great. And because they have friends, that's important. Brandon had a bunch of friends, so that's good. He had a social life, but he perceived that he was very lonely. He perceived that he didn't have friends. So that was an important question for the clinicians involved. Why is he seeing himself with such acute, low self-esteem?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

The alternatives at that age maybe aren't so great. And because they have friends, that's important. Brandon had a bunch of friends, so that's good. He had a social life, but he perceived that he was very lonely. He perceived that he didn't have friends. So that was an important question for the clinicians involved. Why is he seeing himself with such acute, low self-esteem?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Why are we thinking he might be suicidal? The signs of that, some changes in his behavior, dropping out of extracurricular drama club that he previously loved. He'd suffered what he thought was a big humiliation there that when they went and interviewed other people, he tripped over a stage prop or something and said, I'm quitting.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Why are we thinking he might be suicidal? The signs of that, some changes in his behavior, dropping out of extracurricular drama club that he previously loved. He'd suffered what he thought was a big humiliation there that when they went and interviewed other people, he tripped over a stage prop or something and said, I'm quitting.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Why are we thinking he might be suicidal? The signs of that, some changes in his behavior, dropping out of extracurricular drama club that he previously loved. He'd suffered what he thought was a big humiliation there that when they went and interviewed other people, he tripped over a stage prop or something and said, I'm quitting.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

When they talked to the teacher and peers, they were like, we didn't think anything of that. So there was a self-perception issue going on there that they identified. So what did they do? They offered counseling support. To the mother and to Brandon, do you want to maybe see a therapist? Talk to him empathetically. What's going on with you? How can we help you?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

When they talked to the teacher and peers, they were like, we didn't think anything of that. So there was a self-perception issue going on there that they identified. So what did they do? They offered counseling support. To the mother and to Brandon, do you want to maybe see a therapist? Talk to him empathetically. What's going on with you? How can we help you?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

When they talked to the teacher and peers, they were like, we didn't think anything of that. So there was a self-perception issue going on there that they identified. So what did they do? They offered counseling support. To the mother and to Brandon, do you want to maybe see a therapist? Talk to him empathetically. What's going on with you? How can we help you?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Okay, you're not doing well in this class. You dropped out. What if we give you some independent support here with some tutoring? Or you can finish this class on your own. Would you like to do that, Brandon? Yeah, that sounds pretty good. How about with the one teacher you do like? Building those kinds of constructive interventions around him, they call it a wraparound strategy.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Okay, you're not doing well in this class. You dropped out. What if we give you some independent support here with some tutoring? Or you can finish this class on your own. Would you like to do that, Brandon? Yeah, that sounds pretty good. How about with the one teacher you do like? Building those kinds of constructive interventions around him, they call it a wraparound strategy.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Okay, you're not doing well in this class. You dropped out. What if we give you some independent support here with some tutoring? Or you can finish this class on your own. Would you like to do that, Brandon? Yeah, that sounds pretty good. How about with the one teacher you do like? Building those kinds of constructive interventions around him, they call it a wraparound strategy.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Education support, counseling, extracurriculars, working with the family where possible. That's not always possible in it. There are cases where, as we've seen in the last couple of years, the parents are a total mess and they're actually accelerating the problem. That's a harder situation. In this case, though, the mother was responsive and was concerned, wanted to help.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Education support, counseling, extracurriculars, working with the family where possible. That's not always possible in it. There are cases where, as we've seen in the last couple of years, the parents are a total mess and they're actually accelerating the problem. That's a harder situation. In this case, though, the mother was responsive and was concerned, wanted to help.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

Education support, counseling, extracurriculars, working with the family where possible. That's not always possible in it. There are cases where, as we've seen in the last couple of years, the parents are a total mess and they're actually accelerating the problem. That's a harder situation. In this case, though, the mother was responsive and was concerned, wanted to help.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

They're working with her to say, okay, make sure that you watch what he's doing online. If he starts fixating on violent stuff- tell us. Let's make sure we know what he's bringing back and forth to school in his backpack. Lots of measures like that. So there are protective measures, there are constructive measures, and that's how a case like this would work in a school setting.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

They're working with her to say, okay, make sure that you watch what he's doing online. If he starts fixating on violent stuff- tell us. Let's make sure we know what he's bringing back and forth to school in his backpack. Lots of measures like that. So there are protective measures, there are constructive measures, and that's how a case like this would work in a school setting.