Mark Follman

And that's a very important warning sign in a lot of these cases.

One thing that I learned early on, I was talking to a longtime practitioner in Colorado, actually in the Columbine community, a psychologist who told me that when they're doing threat assessment work and they're talking to a person of concern, especially a young person, if that kid is expressing suicidal ideation, I might want to kill myself or I'm thinking about killing myself.

One thing that I learned early on, I was talking to a longtime practitioner in Colorado, actually in the Columbine community, a psychologist who told me that when they're doing threat assessment work and they're talking to a person of concern, especially a young person, if that kid is expressing suicidal ideation, I might want to kill myself or I'm thinking about killing myself.

One thing that I learned early on, I was talking to a longtime practitioner in Colorado, actually in the Columbine community, a psychologist who told me that when they're doing threat assessment work and they're talking to a person of concern, especially a young person, if that kid is expressing suicidal ideation, I might want to kill myself or I'm thinking about killing myself.

They'll ask the question, where? Because if that kid's thinking about doing it at school or in a public setting, that's a very different response than at home. I don't want anyone around me. And sometimes that information is forthcoming. And that tells them this is a person that may also be crossing over a line into homicidal thinking. They want to perform the suicide.

They'll ask the question, where? Because if that kid's thinking about doing it at school or in a public setting, that's a very different response than at home. I don't want anyone around me. And sometimes that information is forthcoming. And that tells them this is a person that may also be crossing over a line into homicidal thinking. They want to perform the suicide.

They'll ask the question, where? Because if that kid's thinking about doing it at school or in a public setting, that's a very different response than at home. I don't want anyone around me. And sometimes that information is forthcoming. And that tells them this is a person that may also be crossing over a line into homicidal thinking. They want to perform the suicide.

Why do they want that attention? These are just an example of some of the nuances that threat assessment will look at to evaluate individuals in their specific circumstances, thinking, behavior. And so that's important as a way to just understand when we talk about mental health and mass shooters, what are we talking about?

Why do they want that attention? These are just an example of some of the nuances that threat assessment will look at to evaluate individuals in their specific circumstances, thinking, behavior. And so that's important as a way to just understand when we talk about mental health and mass shooters, what are we talking about?

Why do they want that attention? These are just an example of some of the nuances that threat assessment will look at to evaluate individuals in their specific circumstances, thinking, behavior. And so that's important as a way to just understand when we talk about mental health and mass shooters, what are we talking about?

You can't just blame this on mental illness and say, fix the mental health system. It's much more than that.

You can't just blame this on mental illness and say, fix the mental health system. It's much more than that.

You can't just blame this on mental illness and say, fix the mental health system. It's much more than that.

Absolutely. There are millions of people who suffer from clinically diagnosable mental illnesses, and there are decades of studies showing there is no meaningful correlation that is predictive in any way of violence.

Absolutely. There are millions of people who suffer from clinically diagnosable mental illnesses, and there are decades of studies showing there is no meaningful correlation that is predictive in any way of violence.

Absolutely. There are millions of people who suffer from clinically diagnosable mental illnesses, and there are decades of studies showing there is no meaningful correlation that is predictive in any way of violence.

Yeah. Another one of the eight areas, planning and preparation. And there are a lot of things that go into that. And you see a whole range of this in cases. In some cases, it's a lot more developed than others. I'll use the Elliot Rogers story. There was an extraordinary opportunity to get to know his mom. I think we'll talk about that in a bit and to learn more about his case.

Yeah. Another one of the eight areas, planning and preparation. And there are a lot of things that go into that. And you see a whole range of this in cases. In some cases, it's a lot more developed than others. I'll use the Elliot Rogers story. There was an extraordinary opportunity to get to know his mom. I think we'll talk about that in a bit and to learn more about his case.

Yeah. Another one of the eight areas, planning and preparation. And there are a lot of things that go into that. And you see a whole range of this in cases. In some cases, it's a lot more developed than others. I'll use the Elliot Rogers story. There was an extraordinary opportunity to get to know his mom. I think we'll talk about that in a bit and to learn more about his case.

But there was also... really unusually large amount of forensic evidence available in that case because he'd written so extensively. He'd made the videos that he posted online. He had an online footprint. There was a very extensive sheriff's investigation.