Mark Gagnon

And so he's like, I'm going to create the Nobel Prize so people remember me as being a peaceful guy.

Same with Cecil Rhodes.

The Beers Diving Company literally is raping all of Southern Africa of their gold and money and just a real kind of a... I won't curse here, but he's a bad guy.

And then he's like, I'm going to create the Rhodes Scholarship.

And then starts funding all these people to go to college and is recognized as a great guy.

The Brown family.

I was going to say, we just discussed this when we were in Providence last weekend.

Famous slave traders that then rehashed their image by creating an Ivy League college.

So I wonder if Peter Thiel's kind of in that spot where he's like, I'm doing this thing.

It's really successful.

And it doesn't really square with my values, but maybe there's a way to make it work.

So you think that's why he's on about the Antichrist?

Right.

Like, I don't know.

Yeah.

Seasteading again like this idea that they were going to create colonies where you could live at sea so you can do whatever you want.

Yeah, that's the issue.

It's like, yeah, the idea of like personal freedom to literally do whatever you want sounds awesome until you meet terrible people and you're like, oh, we need laws.

Yeah.

We need daddy.