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Mark Gagnon

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Even Roman writers who disliked her, like Cicero, admitted that she was really intelligent and really well educated.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

So this seductive beauty thing is largely just a propaganda campaign by Octavian meant to hide the fact that Roman generals willingly allied with this powerful foreign queen.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Now, in 32 BC, war between Octavian and the Antony-Cleopatra alliance was basically inevitable, right?

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

So what does Octavian do?

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Time to go to war.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

But in this wild way, he only declares war on Cleopatra, not on Mark Antony.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Now, this allows him to present the conflict as Rome defending itself against this foreign outsider and this aggressive power and not a actual Roman civil war.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Now, this battle occurs on September 2nd, 31 BC at Actium off the coast of Greece.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Now, this is where things get super complicated because no one

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

actually knows what happened, okay?

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

There's a few different stories.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

The traditional one is that Cleopatra suddenly fled in the middle of battle, and Antony abandoned his own fleet to follow her, and Octavian won a decisive victory without either of them at the helm of their armies.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

But modern historians are actually skeptical of this version, which again, comes mainly from Octavian and his own propaganda.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Other theories suggest that Antony and Cleopatra realized that they are outnumbered and that they're going to lose the battle and decide to basically retreat in order to fight another day.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Or that Antony and Cleopatra just lose the battle outright, but it was actually much closer than Octavian's writers claimed.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Now, what's certain is that after Actium, Antony and Cleopatra retreat to Egypt while Octavian prepares a final invasion.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

So nearly after a year after the Battle of Actium, Cleopatra and Antony remain in Alexandria, basically regrouping and attempt to negotiate peace or peace.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

form a final battle or final moment of resistance i mean cleopatra tries diplomacy and escape and ancient sources even claim that she debated destroying her own treasure rather than letting octavian have it but octavian being a you know proper uh war general and madman wants total victory he wants it all so he's already planning to march cleopatra through rome in chains

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Then, August of 30 BC, Octavian's forces breach Alexandria's defenses.

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The DEADLIEST Queen in Egyptian History

Mark Antony, believing that Cleopatra has already committed s**t, takes his own life with his sword.