Mark Gagnon

My mom is telling me like, oh, look at this foreign war.

You know what I mean?

There was always kind of like skepticism.

And as a result, I've observed American culture more than I existed within it.

Absolutely.

And especially my mother.

My mother was like very conspiratorial.

She would love reading, you know, fringe theories and getting into all sorts of stuff.

So everything was questioned.

And then on top of that, my parents are very Catholic.

I went to a Protestant school.

And so I would come home and I'd be like, mom, is this true?

And she'd go, no, that's not true.

Read this.

And then I was also homeschooled by this woman.

So she would just tell me stuff we would argue.

And so it made me kind of exist on the outside, similar to you where you're living in Brazil, growing up around Brazilians, you yourself are Brazilian, but also a little bit observing the culture.

But did you have moments like, I remember as a kid, I told my mom like, oh, my friend wants me to sleep over at his house.

And she goes, why?

She was like, why would you sleep at his house?