Mark Gagnon

I mean, it's just fascinating.

And the Strait of Hormuz is no different.

And you can see why everyone kind of wants a peace.

And it's really interesting from Iran's perspective because, again, they don't need the, you know, fight America.

They just need to be crazy enough to be willing to shut it down and to just make it so volatile and make the bloc so hot.

that they do just that.

I don't know.

Christo, is there anything you learned?

To my understanding, again, I'm not an expert in this.

My understanding is that England knew about it.

So England basically has control.

And like at this point, we're post 1900s, like post scramble for Africa.

Colonization is like a little bit less in vogue.

There's a lot more of a push to kind of decolonize.

You can't just like steal resources from all these countries.

Slavery is abolished.

Like the general consensus of how.

these empires need to operate is going a little bit more like soft power, diplomacy, back-end deals.

And so as a result, Britain's in there basically as mandates.

They're not, again, colonizing these countries.