Mark Gagnon

But I do think your commitment to neutrality is, I think, an important voice.

And I think in the way that, you know, I wouldn't consider myself like a...

perhaps like a, I think free speech is foundational to America.

Do I consider myself a free speech absolutist?

Maybe not.

But I do value the free speech absolute voices as, you know, as a part of the dialectic, right?

And I think the commitment to neutrality is, yeah, I think it's important.

And I think it's important to

have people like you advocating for the fullness of information on both sides.

Well, I'm excited to read your book.

And if you ever have an early copy that you want to send over, I would gladly go through it.

I'll probably read it very slowly, or maybe I'll have to use an LLM to even get to the bottom of it, but I'm always open.

Larry, thank you so much for joining me.

I really appreciate it.

This is a fantastic conversation.

I appreciate you sharing.

Of course.

Let's do it again soon when your book comes out.

Thank you.

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